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[Oddball]

1/Did you, or did you not describe trans women as hairy bollocked geordies?

The chromosome thing is also completely untrue, you do realise that leading biologists have stated that it is not a binary subject, right? Additionally intersex people who are born with both male and female reproductive organs literally exist.

Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Stalinism, Maoism, Leninism, and Leftism are all literally different things though. That’s like saying conservatism, libertarianism and fascism are identical which isn’t true either.

Also the thing about people being murdered is a weird one. I’m sure capitalism, fascism, and conservatism have never caused the deaths of anyone either, have they?

Finally your understanding of the term “gaslighting” isn’t correct. The majority of what you posted about trans people was pretty bigoted, I just highlighted the most blatantly offensive part.

1/ A Geordie in a dress isn`t a trans-woman, its a man dressed as a woman.
Can we agree that sex offenders/predators infiltrate institutions, get in positions of power and abuse the trust put in them.
Answer me this - why does the Drag Queen Story Hour even exist?
edit- can you answer my earlier question about fifth columnists.

 

[ChesterBlue]

1/ A Geordie in a dress isn`t a trans-woman, its a man dressed as a woman.
Can we agree that sex offenders/predators infiltrate institutions, get in positions of power and abuse the trust put in them.
Answer me this - why does the Drag Queen Story Hour even exist?
edit- can you answer my earlier question about fifth columnists.

You literally said hairy bollocked geordies in dresses when referring trans women, and have now seemingly insinuated that drag queens and trans people are pedophiles.

You do realise what you are spouting here is outright hate speech?

Also, I’m not answering questions about first columnists, because in this context It is irrelevant as they do not exist.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We can debate what has led to the innovation (I'm not sure reducing peoples liberties do) but there are some very innovative companies emerging our of China.

In terms of data then certainly, and I'd argue they can also move faster in terms of infrastructure investment when people can't really complain.

 

[catcherintherye]

1/ A Geordie in a dress isn`t a trans-woman, its a man dressed as a woman.
Can we agree that sex offenders/predators infiltrate institutions, get in positions of power and abuse the trust put in them.
Answer me this - why does the Drag Queen Story Hour even exist?
edit- can you answer my earlier question about fifth columnists.

I appreciate I'm jumping in a bit here mate, but a Geordie in a dress is a Geordie in a dress isnt it? And the key question is, if a bloke (Geordie or otherwise) wants to wear a dress, is this a problem? Surely in a free society, we can let me people wear what clothes they like?

On the 2nd point, you can probably rephrase this to men abuse women, and powerful men do this even more. It fits on a continuum of male violence against women and girls. It's not taken seriously and it really ought to be.

As for drag Queen Story, as a former primary teacher, I'd probably agree this was inappropriate. For adults though, dragn events are really good fun, and you should definitely give one a try if you have a chance. Youd probably quite like it.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

The issues with the debate on the topic of Transgender is you have the left largely promoting it to young people who clearly feel some identity issues and normalise it in the same category as homosexuality (which in of itself is incorrect as thats a sexual preference and nothing related to gender).

I personally believe that 16-18 is far too young to make such a big life decision of undergoing a sex change / hormone treatment.

Some will incorrectly say thats "transphobic" but look at the suicide rates amongst the transgender community - a study done this year shown over 40% of young transgenders have attempted suicide. These kids need support and help from mental health organisations and counseling not encouraged to change their gender at an age where most people feel lost and lacking an identity.

 

[coollino]

The issues with the debate on the topic of Transgender is you have the left largely promoting it to young people who clearly feel some identity issues and normalise it in the same category as homosexuality (which in of itself is incorrect as thats a sexual preference and nothing related to gender).

I personally believe that 16-18 is far too young to make such a big life decision of undergoing a sex change / hormone treatment.

Some will incorrectly say thats "transphobic" but look at the suicide rates amongst the transgender community - a study done this year shown over 40% of young transgenders have attempted suicide. These kids need support and help from mental health organisations and counseling not encouraged to change their gender at an age where most people feel lost and lacking an identity.

It's not really a right or a left issue, it's very mixed. Showing your bias again sadly

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

It's not really a right or a left issue, it's very mixed. Showing your bias again sadly

Nah this is just a normal centrist position. He can see all sides apparently.

 

[coollino]

Nah this is just a normal centrist position. He can see all sides apparently.

So a lot in common with a fly then?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

It's not really a right or a left issue, it's very mixed. Showing your bias again sadly

I think a good portion of the Right do prejudice against transgender which I disagree with completely.

The issue I was raising was more the left/media and to an extent people in celeb culture have pushed this agenda of changing sex/gender neutrality into the unbrella of homosexuality which I think is very damaging as its a lot more complex than simply being physically attracted to the same sex.

I think a lot of young people who want to transition or feel they are "gender fluid" don't truly get the help they need and are pushed/encouraged down a very confusing and complex road which I think long term effects a lot of them in a negative way emotionally/mentally/spiritually.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I think a good portion of the Right do prejudice against transgender which I disagree with completely.

The issue I was raising was more the left/media and to an extent people in celeb culture have pushed this agenda of changing sex/gender neutrality into the unbrella of homosexuality which I think is very damaging as its a lot more complex than simply being physically attracted to the same sex.

I think a lot of young people who want to transition or feel they are "gender fluid" don't truly get the help they need and are pushed/encouraged down a very confusing and complex road which I think long term effects a lot of them in a negative way emotionally/mentally/spiritually.

 

[LostLegend]

I personally believe that 16-18 is far too young to make such a big life decision of undergoing a sex change / hormone treatment.

Some will incorrectly say thats "transphobic" but look at the suicide rates amongst the transgender community - a study done this year shown over 40% of young transgenders have attempted suicide.

Firstly counselling and assessment is already part of the process

Also, if you think that refusing gender affirming care to young people will reduce suicides, then you are hideously misinformed and this post is a perfect example of why people should actually try and speak to trans people and the parents of trans kids before spouting out this ill informed nonsense.

The WHO says gender-affirming care is essential to transgender health

The world's highest health authority also says official documents should contain options for gender nonconforming people

qz.com

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Firstly counselling and assessment is already part of the process

Also, if you think that refusing gender affirming care to young people will reduce suicides, then you are hideously misinformed and this post is a perfect example of why people should actually try and speak to trans people and the parents of trans kids before spouting out this ill informed nonsense.

The WHO says gender-affirming care is essential to transgender health

The world's highest health authority also says official documents should contain options for gender nonconforming people

qz.com

No one knows the answer to that question - however that doesn't change the point that no one at 16-18 has the mental maturity to make such a big life changing decision because they feel they dont belong to a particular gender.

Parts of the human brain dont fully develop in many until around 25-30 year of age.

Personally I think a person shouldn't be allowed to transition until age 25 in which prior to then they need to have evidence of having undergone at least 24 months of regular counselling and support. I dont agree that gender reassingment should be done on the NHS mind I think if someone decides on that option then more power to them but it shouldn't be funded at a time the NHS is on its backside !

 

[LostLegend]

No one knows the answer to that question - however that doesn't change the point that no one at 16-18 has the mental maturity to make such a big life changing decision because they feel they dont belong to a particular gender.

Parts of the human brain dont fully develop in many until around 25-30 year of age.

Personally I think a person shouldn't be allowed to transition until age 25 in which prior to then they need to have evidence of having undergone at least 24 months of regular counselling and support. I dont agree that gender reassingment should be done on the NHS mind I think if someone decides on that option then more power to them but it shouldn't be funded at a time the NHS is on its backside !

Just when I think your opinions can't get more uninformed or idiotic on this subject, you outdo yourself yet again.
Congratulations.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Just when I think your opinions can't get more uninformed or idiotic on this subject, you outdo yourself yet again.
Congratulations.

I deal in facts only mate, I didnt have a clue who I was at age 16, didnt know where I was going in my life, had insecurities over my body/looks like 95% of folk that age and certainly wouldn't have had the maturity to make a massive decision like gender reassignment.

Problem is we live in a society without common sense / morals and sadly many irresponsible parents.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I deal in facts only mate, I didnt have a clue who I was at age 16, didnt know where I was going in my life, had insecurities over my body/looks like 95% of folk that age and certainly wouldn't have had the maturity to make a massive decision like gender reassignment.

Problem is we live in a society without common sense / morals and sadly many irresponsible parents.

I have a degree of sympathy with sone of this, as I wasn't really the best at knowing who I was at such an age.

However, I've also met some incredibly mature and well rounded folk too. I've also known 40, 50 and 60yr old make major life decisions they regret.