Joel Robles

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There was something about his stature last night - not just in goal but also in the way he was walking and engaging with the fans at the end - that looked like he really felt like our first choice keeper. Even in that good little run he had last season he didn't look that assured.

He deserves to start. Keepers like Casillas, Cech, and De Gea have been dropped when their form has slipped. It's ridiculous that an out of form Howard should keep his place.

 

[mlyons]

There was something about his stature last night - not just in goal but also in the way he was walking and engaging with the fans at the end - that looked like he really felt like our first choice keeper. Even in that good little run he had last season he didn't look that assured.

He deserves to start. Keepers like Casillas, Cech, and De Gea have been dropped when their form has slipped. It's ridiculous that an out of form Howard should keep his place.

Casillas was "dropped" because he broke his hand so Real signed another keeper. When he wasn't put back in the team after he recovered from his injury it caused a huge crisis in the Real Madrid locker room and contributed to one of their worst seasons in recent history.

David De Gea has never been dropped, as far as I can tell, unless you're talking about him getting left out of United's match squads at the start of this season, which had nothing to do with form.

Petr Cech wasn't dropped because he was in bad form; he was dropped because Chelsea had one of the best goalkeepers in the world playing behind him and couldn't keep loaning him out.

I would have no problem with Howard getting dropped right now, although I think people are overreacting a bit much to Robles' performance last night. It doesn't really have anything in common with Casillas, De Gea, and Cech, though.

 

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Casillas was "dropped" because he broke his hand so Real signed another keeper. When he wasn't put back in the team after he recovered from his injury it caused a huge crisis in the Real Madrid locker room and contributed to one of their worst seasons in recent history.

David De Gea has never been dropped, as far as I can tell, unless you're talking about him getting left out of United's match squads at the start of this season, which had nothing to do with form.

Petr Cech wasn't dropped because he was in bad form; he was dropped because Chelsea had one of the best goalkeepers in the world playing behind him and couldn't keep loaning him out.

I would have no problem with Howard getting dropped right now, although I think people are overreacting a bit much to Robles' performance last night. It doesn't really have anything in common with Casillas, De Gea, and Cech, though.

Quibbling over semantics is missing the point completely but, since you mention it, De Gea was indeed dropped for Lindegaard after a couple of bad games, while Mourinho dropped Casillas due to form not injury. Granted, De Gea was young and in his first season, but if you're going to spend four paragraphs correcting someone you should make an effort not to be wrong.

Anyway, the point is that far more established 'keepers have not been immune to losing their starting spot and neither should Howard.

 

[Phil86]

There was something about his stature last night - not just in goal but also in the way he was walking and engaging with the fans at the end - that looked like he really felt like our first choice keeper. Even in that good little run he had last season he didn't look that assured.

He deserves to start. Keepers like Casillas, Cech, and De Gea have been dropped when their form has slipped. It's ridiculous that an out of form Howard should keep his place.

I thought that last night aswell as he was stepping up to face the last pen. Looked like he almost knew Redmond was going to miss it, also from the side view in the Bullens looks like he filled the goal when facing the pens.

 

[toffeejack]

His one on one towards the end, think there was a late whistle for offside, but he stayed big and saved it with his arms, instead of guessing one way and laying as flat as possible like timbo

the save itself was pretty great as well, never mind the movement to close the angle down. howard constantly gets beaten like that because he dives out the of the line of the ball.

i despise howard lining up for us now, i can't defend martinez on this circumstance. must purely be because of his age. dressing room influence doesn't come into it because he'd still be in the dressing room if he's sub. (Not at HT admittedly.).

 

[toffeejack]

I thought that last night aswell as he was stepping up to face the last pen. Looked like he almost knew Redmond was going to miss it, also from the side view in the Bullens looks like he filled the goal when facing the pens.

i was almost certain from his saved pen that he was off his line before the kick was taken, he saved it outside the 6 yard box! but he was on his line the whole way through. vast improvement from west ham last season where he was a bit shocking on the pens.

His height compensates for the lack of it in our defence which is useful when teams are going to target you from crosses.

 

[ijjysmith]

A bit 'showey' but looks to me like he was just making sure no eff ups.

Well played Joel.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

A bit 'showey' but looks to me like he was just making sure no eff ups.

Well played Joel.

My nan could have saved all of them.

Even with her ponytail tied to the goalpost.

 

[Joey66]

I didn't even say a negative word about robles...I don't see what you arguing about here. I just said it seems our GK coach instructs our keepers to stay on the line for corners that's it. The only negativity was directed at our back line/DM's for allowing the opposing players free headers in our box.

If Robles would have played like that v Arsenal we may have got a draw or even a win it was down to crap keeping by TH!

 

[MartSlinger]

My nan could have saved all of them.

Even with her ponytail tied to the goalpost.

You're just racist mate, clearly dont like him cause he's Spanish.

Disgusting to be honest.

 

[davids]

There was something about his stature last night - not just in goal but also in the way he was walking and engaging with the fans at the end - that looked like he really felt like our first choice keeper. Even in that good little run he had last season he didn't look that assured.

He deserves to start. Keepers like Casillas, Cech, and De Gea have been dropped when their form has slipped. It's ridiculous that an out of form Howard should keep his place.

That's what struck me quite early on,his body language looked really positive,the fact he's physically imposing helps,and when he came out and caught a cross cleanly......

 

[davids]

A bit 'showey' but looks to me like he was just making sure no eff ups.

Well played Joel.

With Howard in his present form we could have been out of it by half-time.

 

[Joey66]

My nan could have saved all of them.

Even with her ponytail tied to the goalpost.

Your nan is a better keeper than Howard then Doug!- Do you know his best save was last night 2nd half when he was one on one, and the Norwich player tried to hip the ball over his head as he confronted him diving down he was that tall and big, and brave not star-fished he manage to get both hands to it , and throw it our sideways out of danger the offside flag went up in the replay it was not off side that's what he gives us Doug a 6ft 6 " brave goal keeper!

 

[Toffeelover]

Back to the bench for the weekend, that's life (under RM).

 

[Joey66]

His one on one towards the end, think there was a late whistle for offside, but he stayed big and saved it with his arms, instead of guessing one way and laying as flat as possible like timbo

anyone got the one were he comes out late in the 2nd half one on one it was given as offside but it was not supurb save from a brave keeper!