tantavisiteler
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Yeah I don't rate Joe. Doesn't mean I am Trumpist. You can browse how much pro UA I am.
Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46
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the only reason I said 'go on' was because you popped in, slagged off Bidens stutter and said not much else.
As has been said a million times in here, no one really wants Biden but he's way more acceptable than the alternative.
dylsexicbleu
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Kamala Harris? It's amusing how the diversity hire is currently preventing Dems doing the natural thing here, promoting the Vice President when POTUS is disintegrating physically and mentally before our very eyes.
TN Toffee
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I’m not sure Harris deserves much of the blame for the situation the Dems find themselves in currently, and honestly may deserve at least SOME credit for the fact that Trump isn’t currently the President. In an election where a few thousand votes in a half dozen states decided the election, bringing her along as a “diversity hire” may have helped get enough people to the polls to get Biden over the line in 2020.
The Democratic Party cast their lot with Biden a while ago. Which is a perfectly understandable thing to do, given there is little to no modern precedent for trying to primary a sitting President, he’s already shown he’s capable of winning a nationwide election, and will be facing the exact same candidate he’s already shown he can beat. Who else do they have on the bench that has any sort of nationwide appeal?
It seems pretty clear Biden isn’t as strong mentally as he once was, but that’s to be expected from a man in his 80’s, which is exactly what Trump will also be if he wins another term. However, even in his deteriorating state, I’d trust Biden every time to surround himself with a quality cabinet and advisors and take advice on board, as opposed to Trump who will simply surround himself with a bunch of lackeys who are there simply because of their loyalty to Dear Leader.
dylsexicbleu
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Gavin Newsom is probably the toughest candidate Dems can choose instead of Biden. That's one person I don't want Trump to face. The rest he has a fighting chance against despite the special sauce Dems can muster on election days. I don't believe for a second Kamala Harris helped swing any state towards Biden. She was as likely to have put off voters as attracted them. There is good reason she didn't even make it as far as the first primary or caucus in her own run as Dem Presidential nominee. Read that again; she was out before the very first caucus or primary. Sorry, I find it difficult to believe she was a significant draw for Dem voters.
Primarying a sitting President? There is a former Dem President still alive today who was primaried, it can be done. However, much of this stuff is still done behind closed doors. Dem power brokers and influencers can still make all the difference. All it takes is for these people to tell the President he no longer has their backing and the sitting President suddenly has a difficult decision ahead of him. That option for Dem power brokers is so much more difficult without a competent VP waiting in the wings.
How is Harris a diversity hire.
Was Pence a diversity hire when Trump wanted the evangelical vote?
Or Biden when Obama wanted the moderate establishment vote?
Every VP is picked with consideration for the voting demographic they can bring to the ticket.
(Pssst. She's "black.")
dylsexicbleu
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Almost every VP is picked with voting demographic as one consideration amongst others. Other considerations are competence for the job, an ability to step into the POTUS position if needed, an ability to work with Congress etc. The only explanation I can come up with as to why Harris got the gig was optics. It wasn't campaigning ability, administrative competence or her abilities as a political deal maker. If you think Harris was such a good choice why is virtually no-one talking about her as a future elected President? There seems to be no groundswell of support for her to become POTUS, not from the Dem media, the Party big-hitters or the public.
She's definitely qualified to do the job
Twice elected AG of CA and elected Senator for CA.
I'm not sure what more she'd need to be VP.
Actually I'm not going to bother with this, you're talking crap (again)
dylsexicbleu
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Sure, this must be the reason. Which is why IF Biden is unable to continue in the near future Kamala Harris must be the nominee NOT the likes of Gavin Newsom. It would be racist if she were not nominee. It's her turn.
dylsexicbleu
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She's ready to serve. Please, let it be!
https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-ready-serve-amid-161826753.html
https://news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-ready-serve-amid-161826753.html
TN Toffee
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No doubt the exact metrics the Republicans were using when they put…checks notes…Sarah Palin on their ticket in 2008.
Sure, as in diversity = unqualified because she's black. All can see your intent.
If Biden withdraws after receiving the nomination, the party rules kick in and there's no provision for the VP nominee to automatically become the POTUS nominee. The DNC delegates would choose.
dylsexicbleu
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Largely irrelevant as at no point did I claim VP candidates are historically impressive. However, Palin, for all her faults, could stir up a crowd and give a competent stump speech. Harris can't even deliver a speech these days without sounding drunk or as if she's on some sort of hallucinogenics. See, for all the whataboutery of the above post Harris IS the Gordian Knot facing Dems. But hey, that's what happens you you pick Kamala Harris as VP to someone in his 80's.
Cos you want a sex criminal as president.
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