Current Affairs Joe Biden POTUS #46

[BirkenheadBlue]

Name 1.

And tell us all what "woke" means while you're at it @ForeverBlue92

We've been waiting ages.

 

[Rita_Poon]

but you can't just pretend there is no problems that will be created from legalising pot for recreational use.

I agree, can we legalize it for professional use instead, I want my surgeon tripping the light fantastic!!!

 

[LinekersLegs]

Name 1.

Tbh California’s legalization hasn’t been smooth for various reasons some of which are explained in this article

California legalized weed five years ago. Why is the illicit market still thriving?

Despite appearances, the state’s cannabis industry is in disarray as legal businesses struggle to make a profit

www.theguardian.com

Doesn’t mean it was the wrong thing to do however, just it might not be as straightforward as you’d expect.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

You could argue alcohol but the others have little long term adverse effects on their own.

pot however has had numerous studies done whicn shows association between the drug and various adverse outcomes, including impaired driving, increased risk of stroke and testicular cancer, brain changes that could affect learning and memory, and a particularly consistent link between cannabis use and mental illnesses involving psychosis.

Tobacco doesn't have long term adverse effects?

News to me, like.

 

[Goat]

Tbh California’s legalization hasn’t been smooth for various reasons some of which are explained in this article

California legalized weed five years ago. Why is the illicit market still thriving?

Despite appearances, the state’s cannabis industry is in disarray as legal businesses struggle to make a profit

www.theguardian.com

Doesn’t mean it was the wrong thing to do however, just it might not be as straightforward as you’d expect.

Drug dealers arent gonna just stop drug dealing.

For my own POV, it removes the stigma around it, I mean im not pretending im a Saint, but I have to break the law every single day, I mean I dont have to, but you know what I mean.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Drug dealers arent gonna just stop drug dealing.

For my own POV, it removes the stigma around it, I mean im not pretending im a Saint, but I have to break the law every single day, I mean I dont have to, but you know what I mean.

Should run for pm, seems de rigueur

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Much like everything else you post.... not accurate. Never had a single drag.

I know a few people who do coke on occasion too. Do you know a lot of people who would do cocaine but don't because it's illegal? Can't say I know a single one.

Yes myself included. When I hit 18 and turned "legal age" I would have tried it same as I tried the ale because the stigma is gone and its normalised.

If Coke was legalised the addiction rates would be through the roof and you couldn't venture into concert Square without being jabbed with a blade by someone off their rocker on a cocktail of booze and coke.

And thats the worry with legalising pot - once the Govt realises the revenue they can raise through taxation they'll happily legalise the charlie eventually.

Its such a shame whats to happening to society, young lads getting knifed to death every other day, broken single parent families near enough the norm, alcohol, gambling and substance abuse on the rise, mental health crisis, hate crimes through the roof and now we're talking about legalising drugs.

The worlds fallen into sin and I can't see things getting any better.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

If Coke was legalised the addiction rates would be through the roof

Then why has this not been the case in places like Portugal? I noticed you conspicuously ignored @LinekersLegs' post on that

PS. What does "woke" mean?

 

[Rita_Poon]

what better time for jesus to make a comeback like his mate lazarus...

 

[Blue 1]

Tbf Legs a large amount of Americans want assault rifles legal so I dont think they are the bastions of logic lol

I agree with the medical use of pot but not recreational. Studies have shown adverse reactions that can happen to peoples health with regular use of it.

Several studies have shown an association, but there is no proven causal link between cannabis use and mental health issues. I've experienced them myself when smoking an ounce a week though ?

Still would advocate for recreational use being legal though. What's the point in criminalising millions of people who are going to do it anyway? It's far more benign than alcohol.

 

[Martin Alvito]

I agree where you draw the line is difficult, my personal preference is the same approach that Portugal has taken which as far as I am aware has been generally successful.

Portugal Drug Laws under Decriminalization

On July 1, 2001, Portugal became the first country in the world to decriminalize all drugs, including meth and heroin.

www.portugal.com

The decriminalization of drugs in Portugal rapidly decreased the number of deaths from overdoses. Only five years later, the number of street drug overdressed dropped from 400 to 290 annually. The number of new HIV cases decreased from 1,400 to 400, in just 6 years. Drug treatment also improved massively. The number of people in treatment went from 6,040 in 1999 to 14,877 in 2003, an increase of over 140%. The investment was made in increasing drug education in schools and creating awareness about the dangers of drug addiction.

Being aware of the facts should force anyone onto the libertarian bandwagon on this particular issue. Decriminalizing marijuana now is smart by Biden. This is the sort of broadly popular policy he should be engaging in with an election imminent.

Several studies have shown an association, but there is no proven causal link between cannabis use and mental health issues. I've experienced them myself when smoking an ounce a week though ?

Still would advocate for recreational use being legal though. What's the point in criminalising millions of people who are going to do it anyway? It's far more benign than alcohol.

Psychosis link is real. It's not entirely clear if the drug is causal, if it accelerates something that would eventually happen anyway, or if there is no causal arrow. Odds are that there's a causal arrow of some kind.

There are also plenty of people landing in the ED with weird stomach issues that are obviously caused by heavy usage. The drug is not without risks, but we could say the same thing about sugar.

 

[Blue 1]

Being aware of the facts should force anyone onto the libertarian bandwagon on this particular issue. Decriminalizing marijuana now is smart by Biden. This is the sort of broadly popular policy he should be engaging in with an election imminent.


Psychosis link is real. It's not entirely clear if the drug is causal, if it accelerates something that would eventually happen anyway, or if there is no causal arrow. Odds are that there's a causal arrow of some kind.

There are also plenty of people landing in the ED with weird stomach issues that are obviously caused by heavy usage. The drug is not without risks, but we could say the same thing about sugar.

No. Proven. Causal. Link.

It's not just psychosis though, either. There are a whole range of mental health issues that it probably exacerbates or certainly doesn't help with, in my experience. Others, it certainly does help with, mind.

I read about that stomach thing fairly recently. Sounded like hysterical bullshit at first but on further reading perhaps not.

Ultimately, though, we're talking about extremes here. Most people who use weed get on just fine with it, and criminalising them causes more problems than it solves.

 

[Goat]

Yes myself included. When I hit 18 and turned "legal age" I would have tried it same as I tried the ale because the stigma is gone and its normalised.

If Coke was legalised the addiction rates would be through the roof and you couldn't venture into concert Square without being jabbed with a blade by someone off their rocker on a cocktail of booze and coke.

And thats the worry with legalising pot - once the Govt realises the revenue they can raise through taxation they'll happily legalise the charlie eventually.

Its such a shame whats to happening to society, young lads getting knifed to death every other day, broken single parent families near enough the norm, alcohol, gambling and substance abuse on the rise, mental health crisis, hate crimes through the roof and now we're talking about legalising drugs.

The worlds fallen into sin and I can't see things getting any better.

So dont legalise weed in case some coke head goes crazy on a Saturday night.

Well thats a truly compelling POV.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Several studies have shown an association, but there is no proven causal link between cannabis use and mental health issues. I've experienced them myself when smoking an ounce a week though ?

Still would advocate for recreational use being legal though. What's the point in criminalising millions of people who are going to do it anyway? It's far more benign than alcohol.

I agree in that I dont believe someone caught with a bit of weed on them should get in bother with the police - for me a 1st time offence should be a mandatory rehab clinic / education on the matter. If caught numerous times or caught dealing then maybe a heavy fine and some jail time.

The problem is society is lost currently - I used to find answers to my problems down the bottom of a glass but about 18-24 months ago I found spirituality and was saved and I haven't looked back since.

My mental health has never been better, I have more money in my pocket, less scraps with the missus and just an all round better connection with nature and the elements around us.

Instead of bombarding our yoof with ale, gambling, drugs and loose women we should be educating them on finding peace with themselves and nature as thats the only path to improving the problems we face.