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January Transfer Window 2026

Sorry didnt reply to your quoted post.

He's been rated as a wunderkind since the u16s and beyond.

As youre on the South Coast then you'll know the coaches have been picking him for the England youth sides based upon his potential and technical ability.

Sure, hes not the 'typical' Everton player.

He's also not my 'typical favourite type' of player.

I love the all action guys like the Rino Gattuso, Jens Jeremies, Joe Parkinson types and then those who have a bit more to them like Gary Speed and suchlike.

However, I do love an English talent and as you probably remember I posted about Dibling and Rigg a year or so ago as 2 i wanted us to sign.

Why?

Because i do not see this premier league as being solely a closed shop.

I think with a new stadium and with our support we have the foundation for a top side.

If we have certain highly technical English players that can be moulded together with a long term style, and a strategy of development to enhance these players then we could see huge benefits.

I feel that the 'typical' prototype signings of today can be destroyed by the skillful players of yesteryear and that a blend of both can bring huge upside.

Sure, Dibling isnt a 'wonderkid' like those Foden and Nwaneri types, but hes certainly got the ability to be a superstar if we are able to develop him well.
If you’ve been effortlessly better than everyone your age all your life, like you say dibling has, maybe it doesn’t instil the same work ethic as someone who has had to scrap their way up?

Just pondering out loud really.

I said after watching his first game for Everton his body language needs to improve to succeed here but it’s hasn’t yet.
 
Let's break this down .....

We should pay a premium for young English players because they " have a tremendous value upside". I presume that you mean that English players when developed have a higher value than foreign players?

On the one hand I think that's debatable but on the other their is some merit because I do believe that English players are over valued . In fact that's why I wouldn't be shopping in the English market and it's interesting that the likes of Brighton and Brentford ( whose transfer expertise we aspire to ) hardly ever buy English players.

"Form the long term nucleus of the squad" . This really is a xenophobic view isn't it. It implies that foreign players aren't capable of bonding and creating team spirit. I totally reject that notion.

I think we should just buy good players. Personally I don't care if they are English , French or whatever.

I want the best players we can get at the best value.

You think Dibling represents good value , emphatically - I don't.
Yep, good or good with potential are the only criteria that matter. (Aside from not being injury prone) - the world is full of them. I suspect we will see this more once David does leave
 
If you’ve been effortlessly better than everyone your age all your life, like you say dibling has, maybe it doesn’t instil the same work ethic as someone who has had to scrap their way up?

Just pondering out loud really.

I said after watching his first game for Everton his body language needs to improve to succeed here but it’s hasn’t yet.
His home debut was set up. 30 minutes against a tiring lower league side and... nothing much happened.
 
Let's break this down .....

We should pay a premium for young English players because they " have a tremendous value upside". I presume that you mean that English players when developed have a higher value than foreign players?

On the one hand I think that's debatable but on the other their is some merit because I do believe that English players are over valued . In fact that's why I wouldn't be shopping in the English market and it's interesting that the likes of Brighton and Brentford ( whose transfer expertise we aspire to ) hardly ever buy English players.

"Form the long term nucleus of the squad" . This really is a xenophobic view isn't it. It implies that foreign players aren't capable of bonding and creating team spirit. I totally reject that notion.

I think we should just buy good players. Personally I don't care if they are English , French or whatever.

I want the best players we can get at the best value.

You think Dibling represents good value , emphatically - I don't.
He was banging the Chris Rigg drum loudly, now can't get in the Sunderland match day squad.
 
Kind of. Its not going to be easy going for the young English players.

I do think we should be paying a premium for them because they can:

A: Have tremendous value upside
B: Form the long term nucleus of the squad.

So for the likes of Dibling and other U19, u21 English players its a smart long term play.
No way should we be paying premiums for young English players

You get no value for money and they very often aren't as good as players in other leagues. This is a terrible idea for a transfer policy.

We are in no position to be overpaying for young players who aren't good enough to make the team
 
No way should we be paying premiums for young English players

You get no value for money and they very often aren't as good as players in other leagues. This is a terrible idea for a transfer policy.

We are in no position to be overpaying for young players who aren't good enough to make the team
Arguably have spent the combined £65m(?) for Dibling and Barry elsewhere. In facts, would've been better off just not spending at all. Its winding me up just thinking about how little they both offer and also how little you get for £65m these days.
 
I think your missing the point.

We know how he works, but if a signing was made that forced him to change, than he's changed.

Their is no "reverting to type" in that scenario.
Moyes only does things on his own volition or happenstance, we're playing differently than last season due to Jack and KDH but that was by design. It you buy a player he doesn't fancy he just won't play them as he's an obstinate curmudgeon
 
If you’ve been effortlessly better than everyone your age all your life, like you say dibling has, maybe it doesn’t instil the same work ethic as someone who has had to scrap their way up?

Just pondering out loud really.

I said after watching his first game for Everton his body language needs to improve to succeed here but it’s hasn’t yet.
That's the point though, you e judged him after one game.

How long is his contract, that's the length of time you make a judgement over, then you sell or extend
 
Moyes only does things on his own volition or happenstance, we're playing differently than last season due to Jack and KDH but that was by design. It you buy a player he doesn't fancy he just won't play them as he's an obstinate curmudgeon
Your still missing the point of the post.

I said
If a signing forced Moyes to have a Plan B.

I didnt say
A signing will force Moyes to have a Plan B

"If" being the important factor in that post.

What we know about moyes plays no part in that post.
 
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Don't understand the constant moaning about this idea.

It's really simple, they've been in place at Roma for years longer than they've been here. They're further down the line with their long term strategy there, and they've got a top manager in place who they can trust to keep building that team.

We're still in a transitional phase, too much stuff up in the air still. We all want Moyes gone in summer, hard to then justify giving him loads of money to spend on a team he won't be here to manage.
 
Don't understand the constant moaning about this idea.

It's really simple, they've been in place at Roma for years longer than they've been here. They're further down the line with their long term strategy there, and they've got a top manager in place who they can trust to keep building that team.

We're still in a transitional phase, too much stuff up in the air still. We all want Moyes gone in summer, hard to then justify giving him loads of money to spend on a team he won't be here to manage.
We don't ALL want Moyes gone in the summer.
 

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