January 2015 transfer window ( No GIFs allowed )(Nor fish puns ffs)

[marty mcfly]

Fair enough, but to me the fact he ended up at a desperate Villa (* see point below for clarification ) says it all really. You'd have thought someone else higher up would have been interested even if it was just for a sell on in the next couple of years if he only ends up being a fringe player.

(Yes, I know they are only a point below us. Villa will be in the relegation fight, we won't. We CAN play much better than we are doing right now and will at some point (last year showed that), but I don't think Villa can)

I think he went there because he has friends there and he would be guaranteed to play.

He went on loan (to promotion/relegation team) where he starred for first team football and has now left his boyhood club for the same reason. It's not hard to understand. There are actually some players that want to play and not sit on the bench or constantly get loaned where no clubs give a damn and see their careers go to hell. I know with players like Sinclair and Rodwell that's hard to believe but Rom came to us for the same reason.

 

[Peter5875]

Well I have tried to get the thread back on track..........

Bored, time for bed....

 

[marty mcfly]

If their out of contract and there's no fee involved in six months how can it be cheaper to pay a fee for them now?

The player/agent will most likely want a fee which complicates it.

 

[marty mcfly]

Fair enough, but to me the fact he ended up at a desperate Villa (* see point below for clarification ) says it all really. You'd have thought someone else higher up would have been interested even if it was just for a sell on in the next couple of years if he only ends up being a fringe player.

(Yes, I know they are only a point below us. Villa will be in the relegation fight, we won't. We CAN play much better than we are doing right now and will at some point (last year showed that), but I don't think Villa can)

I think Villa will finish above us. Vault me.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

The player/agent will most likely want a fee which complicates it.

They'll want that anyway and you've still got to pay a transfer fee.

 

[hetion]

Valencia have a 12m buyback clause in Gil's contract. RM will have said eff that. That's the long and the short of it.

 

[ijjysmith]

Valencia have a 12m buyback clause in Gil's contract. RM will have said eff that. That's the long and the short of it.

Doubt we even knew that.

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How do you know that?!

 

[Dymak]

If their out of contract and there's no fee involved in six months how can it be cheaper to pay a fee for them now?

They will be a lot cheaper than their market value right now, so a discount will apply. There is no such thing as discounts in the Summer, they're either free agents and therefore no fee is involved, or they cost the same amount as they did in January.

 

[marty mcfly]

Valencia have a 12m buyback clause in Gil's contract. RM will have said eff that. That's the long and the short of it.

That's what I think happened which if the case it's a stupid decision as either not paying the release clause or accepting it would have been better.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

They will be a lot cheaper than their market value right now, so a discount will apply. There is no such thing as discounts in the Summer, they're either free agents and therefore no fee is involved, or they cost the same amount as they did in January.

It depends how much the selling club want rid and even then the player will take a lot of persuasion and want very high wages given they could move anywhere in 6 months time. I doubt there's a great saving all in, there's a reason most clubs don't do business in this window and they all cite there's no value in the market, not just Everton.

 

[TrixyStevens]

Valencia have a 12m buyback clause in Gil's contract. RM will have said eff that. That's the long and the short of it.

Were we in for Gil mate?

 

[marty mcfly]

They will be a lot cheaper than their market value right now, so a discount will apply. There is no such thing as discounts in the Summer, they're either free agents and therefore no fee is involved, or they cost the same amount as they did in January.

Exactly. You need to buy players whenever they come available. Penny pinching in this way just guarantees that you might miss out.

 

[Wiv]

The Echo claim Martinez is seeking a new goalkeeper and a creative midfielder.

 

[marty mcfly]

Were we in for Gil mate?

The player himself said Everton had approached his agents this time last year with a view to meeting his release clause however he wanted to give it a shot at first team football at Valencia this season.

 

[marty mcfly]

It depends how much the selling club want rid and even then the player will take a lot of persuasion and want very high wages given they could move anywhere in 6 months time. I doubt there's a great saving all in, there's a reason most clubs don't do business in this window and they all cite there's no value in the market, not just Everton.

Every team has to placate it's supporters. Most business does get done in the summer but January shouldn't be dismissed just because it's the January window.