January 2015 transfer window ( No GIFs allowed )(Nor fish puns ffs)

[SimonB]

Fulfilling an obligation isn't really what loyalty is about IMO. But I don't think we are going to agree on this.

OK, so say a player signs a five year contract. How long does he have to stay at the club to be seen as 'loyal?'

 

[Chang Elephant]

Told Bill's sanctioned a 20M net spend this window, originally more but reduced due to FFP. Briefed Martinez to look for athletic players not midgets.

 

[ijjysmith]

Everyone is going to fume about not getting Gil in now.

FFS Bobby.

FUUUUMMMEEE

 

[TippEverton]

FUUUUMMMEEE

Great goal in fairness, I can safely say I knew the square root of zilch about him before joining villa, so Il save my fume til the window shuts and we still haven't got anyone in.

 

[ijjysmith]

Great goal in fairness, I can safely say I knew the square root of zilch about him before joining villa, so Il save my fume til the window shuts and we still haven't got anyone in.

Same. Knew pretty much nothing about him. But he just did that so I'm fuming.

 

[tim cahill]

OK, so say a player signs a five year contract. How long does he have to stay at the club to be seen as 'loyal?'

To be considered loyal? The rest of his career or as long as the club want him.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I just find it weird that you would insult a player for remaining loyal to his club.

He may have signed his contract, but he had been stalling on a new contract for months, and IMO that means he was waiting to see if any of the big boys came in for him, or he was waiting for more cash from Villa. if he wanted to be loyal to the club he would have signed a new contract as soon as it was put in front of him, instead of stalling for months and considering his contract was up in the summer.

 

[SimonB]

To be considered loyal? The rest of his career or as long as the club want him.

So you think when a club signs a player he's theirs as long as they want him? Interesting viewpoint.

 

[Jags..class]

Yeah, I was surprised too. A lack of ambition.

Maybe he happy at villa. Maybe he didn't have many offers and also want to be loyal to the club who have stuck by him while he was out of the game for along time.

 

[tim cahill]

So you think when a club signs a player he's theirs as long as they want him? Interesting viewpoint.

Not at all, but they certainly wouldn't be considered loyal just for seeing out their contract. Would you describe Moyes as being loyal to everton?

 

[tim cahill]

He may have signed his contract, but he had been stalling on a new contract for months, and IMO that means he was waiting to see if any of the big boys came in for him, or he was waiting for more cash from Villa. if he wanted to be loyal to the club he would have signed a new contract as soon as it was put in front of him, instead of stalling for months and considering his contract was up in the summer.

Holding out for a better wage is just business. You can't hold that against someone.

 

[SimonB]

Not at all, but they certainly wouldn't be considered loyal just for seeing out their contract. Would you describe Moyes as being loyal to everton?

In the respect that he saw out his contract he was, but he did string the club and fans along by stalling on a new contract. He always seemed to be on the lookout for a new job if something half decent cropped up, so he's not someone I'd class as loyal even before his actions after he left.

 

[tim cahill]

I fear we may have drifted slightly off topic though...

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Holding out for a better wage is just business. You can't hold that against someone.

Agree with you there, but holding out on a new contract for more cash imo can't be classed as loyalty.

 

[Librarian]

sign the signings