Israel doesn't differentiate fighters from children when targeting
Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state
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He looked delighted though, and could do with a little plausible deniability these days
It definitely would not have happened
The Biden Admin abstaining from UN calls for ceasefires instead of vetoing signaled the shift. Bibi was waiting for a Trump presidency
Democrats would not have withdrawn from the UN Human Rights council either
Furey1878
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That's the dress up I'm referring to mate. The US would have kept supplying Israel and not giving a flying one about the continued plight of the average Palestinian.
Yea very little
I am writing to the Irish Taoiseach Micheal Martin to urge cancellation of the annual St. Patricks day ring kissing trip to Washington. A least in that, we would not be signaling Irish Americans that we are supportive of this. Even if behind closed doors Martin urges a different approach Trump will spin it whatever way he wants. Kissing the ring and making agreements is meaningless with a lunatic like Trump. Look at the way he is talking about the horrible trade deal the US have with Canada and Mexico that he himself said was the best trade deal ever ever when he oversaw it in 2018.
As you say there is little we can do but be active in what's left of representative democratic systems. Any other nation and boycotts and sanctions would be under full discussion this morning.
I don't agree. The Biden admin were at least getting some aid in and arranged ceasefires that Netanyahu would definitely have abided by were the Democrats in power for a further four years. Election year was a big problem in this. Israel made life difficult for the Democrats and the Democrats tried to play both sides due to voting blocks and lobbying. They should've been firmer and not considered the election but hindsight is 20/20 at the end of the day.
It would be very different now had they won, I'm sure of that
Furey1878
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Mate, allowing aid, negotiating temporary ceasefires but also still supplying and not stopping the Israeli regime that are causing the need for aid is not a good thing. Maybe it leaves a nicer taste in the mouth and lets some people think they're doing the right thing, but it's a load of crap. The only country that can stop Israel is America. But they don't as they have wider concerns in the middle-east and want to placate Israel as an ally... even though that ally is committing a genocide in Palestine.
I honestly think we should all threaten to move over to BRICS in retaliation
I don't disagree
It was however happening during an election year with powerful counter influences in the States. There is no doubt Netanyahu was playing the long game in the hope of a trump presidency because support would definitely have decreased under a new Democratic term.
The point is, it would've been different. Gaza would not be taken over by the US and ethnically cleansed which you said it would be. That's my opinion on it based on Democrat commentary on the issue when in the Executive and in Congress.
It is irrelevant now because they lost votes due to being less definitive in their stance and Musk targeting conflicting disinformation at Muslim and Jewish voters in the run up.
I have no doubt this is worse. Trump said 'long term ownership position'.
I would love every influential nation/group to threaten the US with Tariffs. Be it the EU, Brics, UK, Arab block etc. Trump is a bully throwing his weight around now and the US would soon discover their power is grounded in economic ties globally. They don't spend near 1 trillion p/a on their military without it
Something drastic is needed and quite possibly will happen
tsubaki
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TBF the rest of the world deciding that it wasn’t going to go down this road and will instead do something else would be not drastic at all, and potentially hilarious.
Yarrgh
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Europe (including the UK) should have it's own version of non-dollar money transfer. Reliance on one method of interchange under control of the US would be a risky thing if the US ever voted in a crazed megalomaniac as President.
However I expect the BRICS financial system will become available in non BRICS countries sooner than later, especially if it's cheaper when dealing with BRICS (and maybe even other non-BRICS) countries.
The irony in Trunk trying to MAGA yet actually turning it into a global pariah state would be glorious if it were not for the millions of decent people it will harm
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