It’s interesting to see how they done it, or who has supported them.
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Aye. That’s an 1800+nm mission using F-35’s. Would require multiple air-air refuels. Also sends a message to Iran that they can now put F-35’s in downtown Tehran.
tsubaki
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The damage that has been done to the foundations of the state of Israel since October 7th is much, much greater than the Israeli government have been able to dole out in return. The past year has seen relations with most of the region terminally damaged, and most of the rest of the world including most of the West on a downward trend (more so with the populations than politicians, but the latter usually lags behind the former). Their antics are suggesting to the rest of the region that they are unhinged and expansionist and that the current hegemon (the US) is someone who they at least ignore and at worst control. This ruins whatever credit the US has in the region and forces the region to look at alternatives - hence the Chinese brokering of the Iran / SA rapproachment, SA and Egypt joining BRICS (and Turkey wanting to join), and the work going on between the EU and GCC/OIC over Palestine. None of this is helpful, certainly not so to the US but especially so to the Israeli state itself.
What is more the Israeli government have repeatedly demonstrated their ability to strike at the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah and any other group it deems a threat - multiple senior members of each have been killed over the decades, all of these attacks lauded for their cleverness or audacity and they all failed to reduce the effectiveness of those groups who were (even after these attacks) stronger than they were before.
All in all I think the longer this goes on the more likely it is that the Israeli government - whether thats Netanyahu or someone more extreme - talks itself into a contest with a large coalition of regional states (backed by most of the rest of the world) as well as the resistance movements. That contest would not be survivable.
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There are many in the region hoping that the Iranian regime gets toppled. Iran are clear about this and the threat Trump would also bring, thus the reported issues regarding Iran supporting Harris.
I’m not an expert on this in the slightest, so looking at it as a layman you’d say it’s either down the Gulf of Aquaba, or Saudi or Jordanian air space.
With Saudi views on the Houthis, would they turn a blind eye? Have Jordan? Israel has refuelling capabilities, but they’d be straying way out of friendly air space.
Who owns that bit of the med, and is that air craft carrier still loitering?
Are these dummkopfs about to trigger world war 3?
Tipp blue
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Probably not. Reagional conflict that won't escalate.
Contested waters bordered by all of the above and Egypt, so I would say they all probably use it. And yes, the Abraham Lincoln is there.
My guess is down the Red Sea in international airspace. Also I thought their refuelling capabilities were basic. Looks like they’ve invested in fixing that problem.
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Syria getting it today.
They’re not messing about. Haymakers aots.
Wish they'd pack it in. Among the things I do for work is importing a range of Lebanese food products, and the dude we deal with in Beirut with has family in the South of Lebanon who have been evacuated to Beirut, only for the Israeli bombs to fall there, too. It's grim. The Israelis are potentially jeopardising a part of my business, so now I have a personal grievance.
Spadge Vernacular
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Don't worry mate, you'll be OK.At the risk of rehashing an debate many months old, I am not sure that an account on Twitter that purports to be that of a rather more reputable media organization is necessarily trustworthy. The real Middle East Eye hasnt reported this:
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