Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Cork Evertonian]

No need, you have outed yourself - not that it was in much doubt.

You still have not really dealt with the following IDF actions unless you think they are just "social and cultural prejudices against them"

SINCE October 7th they have destroyed pretty much every school, hospital, university, ancient olive groves, vast swathes of entire cities, football stadiums, dug up roads, destroyed infrastructure, stopped aid convoys, turned off water, electric and internet, murdered many tens of thousands of innocent women and children, blown up refugee camps, markets, civilian convoys, murdered over 100 journalists, children trapped in cars, people waving white flags, shot all livestock, then they moved onto the West Bank (there was no Hamas), where they murdered many innocent civilians, claimed lands that are not theirs, destroyed villages, created police protected armed settler groups who carry out pogroms against their hosts.

I want you to talk about the genocide - own it.

The Jewish people were subjected to genocide in world war two, and they are being subjected to genocide at the hands of Hamas right now.

I like you am also against oppression and stand with the oppressed, hence why i stand with Israel and fully support it's right to exist and defend itself.

It is the likes of yourself and not the likes of me who is the genocide denier. Own up and admit to your blatant anti semitism. Again for anyone who is in any doubt here.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

hahaha, I love this one! They weren't the only ones their you fool, it was not "their" homeland. Also, by your logic, should we return all lands to the natives? all whites out of USA, Australia, NZ, etc??

Thought not

Were the white US, Australian and New Zealand natives exposed and indeed continue to be exposed, to the same levels of hatred and genocide as the Jewish people though?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

The Jewish people were subjected to genocide in world war two, and they are being subjected to genocide at the hands of Hamas right now.

I like you am also against oppression and stand with the oppressed, hence why i stand with Israel and fully support it's right to exist and defend itself.

It is the likes of yourself and not the likes of me who

is the genocide denier. Own up and admit to your blatant anti semitism. Again for anyone who is in any doubt here.

Looool
Wtaf are you on about you lunatic ?! Tens of thousands of innocent children murdered and you gone up with this bullshizz

Get your sorry, racist arse bed you muppet

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Were the white US, Australian and New Zealand natives exposed and indeed continue to be exposed, to the same levels of hatred and genocide as the Jewish people though?

Are you just typing random words?

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

Coward

 

[superblue123]

No, you didn't. You offered some fluffy, made up, sanitised situation and completely ignored what the world is seeing - standard practice for all the genocide deniers.

I clearly asked what you expect Israel to do?
Which you haven’t given a response too without pasting the same paragraph over and over again that doesn’t answer my question. Please do tell me how you expect Israel to act in the wake of October 7th?

 

[superblue123]

All of it. Killing Hamas, IJ, Fatah, the PLO and all the rest rather than acknowledging that the vast majority of Palestinians are the victims of ongoing persecution and discrimination and this needs to be addressed are what has led to this crisis that the Israeli state finds itself in.

I mean if they kill Sinawar today, how many people think that this will end? If they killed every Hamas member in Gaza, how many people think this will end?

I think the world would be a much better place if Sinwar was dead, so yes I think it would be closer to ending. Reports already talk to Hamas losing control in the Strip between themselves and other Palestinian groups. Get rid of Hamas and pray for better leadership on both sides for two peoples whose histories who are intertwined.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Blue 1]

I clearly asked what you expect Israel to do?
Which you haven’t given a response too without pasting the same paragraph over and over again that doesn’t answer my question. Please do tell me how you expect Israel to act in the wake of October 7th?

Negotiate the release of the hostages, then go after Hamas' leaders. I think this would've been more acceptable to the majority of the Israeli public, certainly the couple of Israelis I keep in touch with would've preferred it if bringing the hostages home had been the priority.

Not commit genocide in order to keep Netanyahu out of jail and the fascist scum Ben-Gvir and Smotrich in government.

Rein in the lunatics on the West Bank.

People forget that 234 Palestinians had been killed on the West Bank in 2023 prior to the horror of October 7th, because Palestinian life is irrelevant to them.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I clearly asked what you expect Israel to do?
Which you haven’t given a response too without pasting the same paragraph over and over again that doesn’t answer my question. Please do tell me how you expect Israel to act in the wake of October 7th?

The answer lies BEFORE October the 7th! Israel has been acting the aggressor for decades, no Israel -no hamas. It is that simple.


However, since october 7th....they should have taken time to reflect not kill and ghettoise even more innocent women and children. Go after hamas, of course, but not in such a way that they have. The most advanced army in the world can distinguish between women and children and freedom fighters.

There is a clear decision here to create as much destruction and death as possible under the guise of "defending ourselves" - hence the genocide and war crimes charges.

I ask you ...what were the Palestinians to do? Over the past 70 years Israel has taken more and more land and tormented their hosts while the world watches on. They have no army (ISrael will not allow) and no international voice (Israel will not permit them to be granted state status) against a strong army with world political standing. They have watched their children be killed and imprisoned and their lands taken, what were they to do? At some point it was going to go pop!


You still havent told me why:

they have destroyed pretty much every school, hospital, university, ancient olive groves, vast swathes of entire cities, football stadiums, dug up roads, destroyed infrastructure, stopped aid convoys, turned off water, electric and internet, murdered many tens of thousands of innocent women and children, blown up refugee camps, markets, civilian convoys, murdered over 100 journalists, children trapped in cars, people waving white flags, shot all livestock etc etc-

Please answer.

 

[Prevenger17]

Please do tell me how you expect Israel to act in the wake of October 7th?

I'm not sure what the correct response is, but I am absolutely sure it's not murdering tens and thousands of kids and committing genocide

 

[superblue123]

However, since october 7th....they should have taken time to reflect not kill and ghettoise even more innocent women and children. Go after hamas, of course, but not in such a way that they have. The most advanced army in the world can distinguish between women and children and freedom fighters.

So in the aftermath of a country’s worst ever terrorist attack where its civilians were killed and stories of rape occurred, and whose civilians were taken as hostages and brought back to Gaza - where there is an underground tunnel system that is larger than the London tube map where it makes it infinitely harder to rescue them - and the last hostage rescue pre October 7th resulted in a 1:1000 prisoner swap that included Sinwar being released so he could plan October 7th - you expected them to reflect? Really? Why aren’t these standards held to any other country in the world?

I ask you ...what were the Palestinians to do? Over the past 70 years Israel has taken more and more land and tormented their hosts while the world watches on. They have no army (ISrael will not allow) and no international voice (Israel will not permit them to be granted state status) against a strong army with world political standing. They have watched their children be killed and imprisoned and their lands taken, what were they to do? At some point it was going to go pop!

Arms have never been an issue for the Palestinians, nor is Israel able to permit them not be granted state status in the UN.

There have been many points in time since 1948 where peace could have been made. Many who follow Hamas still want the destruction of the State of Israel in full, from the river to the sea. They do not want to live side by side with Israelis or Jews. The sooner they have a real leader who recognises Israel’s right to exist, the better.

In Gaza specifically since 2005, when Israel withdrew, they should have focus Qatari and Iranian money on building up rather than down. Why did they destroy everything the Israelis had left behind when they withdrew? There was infrastructure in place.

The answer lies BEFORE October the 7th! Israel has been acting the aggressor for decades, no Israel -no hamas. It is that simple.


However, since october 7th....they should have taken time to reflect not kill and ghettoise even more innocent women and children. Go after hamas, of course, but not in such a way that they have. The most advanced army in the world can distinguish between women and children and freedom fighters.

There is a clear decision here to create as much destruction and death as possible under the guise of "defending ourselves" - hence the genocide and war crimes charges.

I ask you ...what were the Palestinians to do? Over the past 70 years Israel has taken more and more land and tormented their hosts while the world watches on. They have no army (ISrael will not allow) and no international voice (Israel will not permit them to be granted state status) against a strong army with world political standing. They have watched their children be killed and imprisoned and their lands taken, what were they to do? At some point it was going to go pop!


You still havent told me why:

they have destroyed pretty much every school, hospital, university, ancient olive groves, vast swathes of entire cities, football stadiums, dug up roads, destroyed infrastructure, stopped aid convoys, turned off water, electric and internet, murdered many tens of thousands of innocent women and children, blown up refugee camps, markets, civilian convoys, murdered over 100 journalists, children trapped in cars, people waving white flags, shot all livestock etc etc-

Please answer.

It’s war in a densly populated area and as I have noted, innocents being killed on both sides should not be happening. I can go on and talk to Universities, UNRWA schools, residential homes and hospitals being used for Hamas activities, but I guess you don’t want to hear that because ultimately in your eyes ‘what were the Palestinians going to do’.

 

[Prevenger17]

It’s war in a densly populated area and as I have noted, innocents being killed on both sides should not be happening.

Correct. But it is happening in tremendous numbers to Palestinians and shows no signs of letting up. Tens of thousands of kids are getting bombed to smithereens and you're sitting here trying to justify it. Bloodthirsty goon

 

[SundayMondayMagayeGueye]

So in the aftermath of a country’s worst ever terrorist attack where its civilians were killed and stories of rape occurred, and whose civilians were taken as hostages and brought back to Gaza - where there is an underground tunnel system that is larger than the London tube map where it makes it infinitely harder to rescue them - and the last hostage rescue pre October 7th resulted in a 1:1000 prisoner swap that included Sinwar being released so he could plan October 7th - you expected them to reflect? Really? Why aren’t these standards held to any other country in the world?



Arms have never been an issue for the Palestinians, nor is Israel able to permit them not be granted state status in the UN.

There have been many points in time since 1948 where peace could have been made. Many who follow Hamas still want the destruction of the State of Israel in full, from the river to the sea. They do not want to live side by side with Israelis or Jews. The sooner they have a real leader who recognises Israel’s right to exist, the better.

In Gaza specifically since 2005, when Israel withdrew, they should have focus Qatari and Iranian money on building up rather than down. Why did they destroy everything the Israelis had left behind when they withdrew? There was infrastructure in place.



It’s war in a densly populated area and as I have noted, innocents being killed on both sides should not be happening. I can go on and talk to Universities, UNRWA schools, residential homes and hospitals being used for Hamas activities, but I guess you don’t want to hear that because ultimately in your eyes ‘what were the Palestinians going to do’.

Your first point the 1:1000 exchange, these are the mostly 'administratively detained without trial' and kids chucking stones at tanks prisoners. Currently there are thousands more including 2 hundred Palestinian medical workers, illegally detained, not to mention the ones that have been raped, which recently caused a debate on whether rape was OK or not in the Knesset, or the ones taken from the West Bank or East Jerusalem where Hamas has no jurisdiction...those ones?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

So in the aftermath of a country’s worst ever terrorist attack where its civilians were killed and stories of rape occurred, and whose civilians were taken as hostages and brought back to Gaza - where there is an underground tunnel system that is larger than the London tube map where it makes it infinitely harder to rescue them - and the last hostage rescue pre October 7th resulted in a 1:1000 prisoner swap that included Sinwar being released so he could plan October 7th - you expected them to reflect? Really? Why aren’t these standards held to any other country in the world?



Arms have never been an issue for the Palestinians, nor is Israel able to permit them not be granted state status in the UN.

There have been many points in time since 1948 where peace could have been made. Many who follow Hamas still want the destruction of the State of Israel in full, from the river to the sea. They do not want to live side by side with Israelis or Jews. The sooner they have a real leader who recognises Israel’s right to exist, the better.

In Gaza specifically since 2005, when Israel withdrew, they should have focus Qatari and Iranian money on building up rather than down. Why did they destroy everything the Israelis had left behind when they withdrew? There was infrastructure in place.



It’s war in a densly populated area and as I have noted, innocents being killed on both sides should not be happening. I can go on and talk to Universities, UNRWA schools, residential homes and hospitals being used for Hamas activities, but I guess you don’t want to hear that because ultimately in your eyes ‘what were the Palestinians going to do’.

You are either in utter denial, incredibly stupid or complicit, my guess is the latter. You're a Mark Regev mouthpiece, spouting the same lies and fabrications in order to justify the murder of children.

You are no better than those who persecuted your own people.

Shame on you.

 

[SundayMondayMagayeGueye]

So in the aftermath of a country’s worst ever terrorist attack where its civilians were killed and stories of rape occurred, and whose civilians were taken as hostages and brought back to Gaza - where there is an underground tunnel system that is larger than the London tube map where it makes it infinitely harder to rescue them - and the last hostage rescue pre October 7th resulted in a 1:1000 prisoner swap that included Sinwar being released so he could plan October 7th - you expected them to reflect? Really? Why aren’t these standards held to any other country in the world?



Arms have never been an issue for the Palestinians, nor is Israel able to permit them not be granted state status in the UN.

There have been many points in time since 1948 where peace could have been made. Many who follow Hamas still want the destruction of the State of Israel in full, from the river to the sea. They do not want to live side by side with Israelis or Jews. The sooner they have a real leader who recognises Israel’s right to exist, the better.

In Gaza specifically since 2005, when Israel withdrew, they should have focus Qatari and Iranian money on building up rather than down. Why did they destroy everything the Israelis had left behind when they withdrew? There was infrastructure in place.



It’s war in a densly populated area and as I have noted, innocents being killed on both sides should not be happening. I can go on and talk to Universities, UNRWA schools, residential homes and hospitals being used for Hamas activities, but I guess you don’t want to hear that because ultimately in your eyes ‘what were the Palestinians going to do’.

Your next point regarding 'from the river to the sea'. You do realise this was the motto from the Israeli Likud Party? Who want a 'greater Isreal' from Lebanon to Iraq with no Palestine or Gaza?

Also worth noting Hamas was founded in 1987 and this has been going on since Likud and the IDF evolved from the original self described paramilitary terrorist gangs that were involved in palestinian massacres and the murder of British servicemen.