Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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It is very strange !


Yes, an huuuuge issue….Israel has been terrorising the Palestinians long before October 7th. Since then they have destroyed pretty much every school, hospital, university, ancient olive groves, vast swathes of entire cities, football stadiums, dug up roads, destroyed infrastructure, stopped aid convoys, turned off water, electric and internet,murdered many tens of thousands of innocent women and children, blown up refugee camps, markets, civilian convoys, murdered over 100 journalists, children trapped in cars, people waving white flags, shot all livestock, then they moved onto the West Bank (there was no Hamas), where they murdered many innocent civilians, claimed lands that are not theirs, destroyed villages, created police protected armed settler groups who carry out pogroms against their hosts … mate, the list is endless and anyone, absolutely anyone who sides with them is complicit in genocide - like the silent nazis.

Curious to know where you stand on the Israeli actions since October 7th
So you are against targeted killings of Hamas leadership - a proscribed terrorist organisation by many countries around the world and behind the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust - and also take umbrage (as many do) with Israel striking Gaza and unfortunately killing innocents. Am I right to therefore conclude that you don’t agree with any military action of Israel whatsoever? If so, that is a standard we do not hold to any other country in the world who have faced an terror attack like that seen on October 7th.

I of course, like the majority of us do, decry any loss of innocent life in Gaza and anywhere in the world. My view is ultimately what do you expect Israel to do? It is faced with an enemy that in a strip of land that it forcibly removed its citizens from in 2005 and handed over the keys to. Once Hamas came in, they concentrated their funding on building underground rather than overground. Yes Gaza is a significantly overpopulated piece of land and Hamas have enshrined themselves within the civilian population which tragically means a pinpoint ground incursion to save hostages is impossible. It is a comment I see to easily made that Israel should be doing incursions to save hostages - I don’t see how this is feasibly possible.

Take the footage of the tunnel released today where they found the six hostages killed on the weekend. The tunnel head was in a children’s room where there were pictures of children’s characters on the wall. If Hamas are that enshrined in the population that they can build tunnels in this environment, how do you expect to Israel to act militarily?

Ps as a Jew, I don’t appreciate the equivocation with being a silent Nazi.
 
So many historical representations with these maps.

The first map shows Palestine with Palestinian land in green, with small Jewish settlements. This implies that the land was under Palestinian Arab sovereignty, which is inaccurate. In 1946, all of this territory was part of the British Mandate for Palestine, under British control. There was no independent Palestinian state or unified Palestinian control over the land at that time.

The second map, portraying 1947 conveniently ignores the context of the UN Partition Plan which proposed to divide the land into separate Jewish and Arab states. This plan was accepted by Jewish leaders but rejected by Arab leaders, leading to the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The map ignores this turning point and the international legal framework proposed for two states.

The third map which I’m guessing shows the aftermath of the 1948 war, does not include the context that Israel declared independence and expanded its borders beyond the UN Partition Plan due to the outcomes of the war. Your map does not mention that the Jordan and Egypt occupied the West Bank and Gaza Strip from 1949 to 1967. During this period, those areas were not under Palestinian control either.
 
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As a policy goes, its hard to think of one that has failed worse than Israel repeatedly finishing off Hamas by killing its leadership. Every time they have done that, a more capable man has stepped into the dead man's shoes.

We are probably only one or two more rounds of killing Hamas leaders from the reconquest of Jerusalem.

Interesting. Which one/s do you disagree with?
 
So you are against targeted killings of Hamas leadership - a proscribed terrorist organisation by many countries around the world and behind the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust - and also take umbrage (as many do) with Israel striking Gaza and unfortunately killing innocents. Am I right to therefore conclude that you don’t agree with any military action of Israel whatsoever? If so, that is a standard we do not hold to any other country in the world who have faced an terror attack like that seen on October 7th.

I of course, like the majority of us do, decry any loss of innocent life in Gaza and anywhere in the world. My view is ultimately what do you expect Israel to do? It is faced with an enemy that in a strip of land that it forcibly removed its citizens from in 2005 and handed over the keys to. Once Hamas came in, they concentrated their funding on building underground rather than overground. Yes Gaza is a significantly overpopulated piece of land and Hamas have enshrined themselves within the civilian population which tragically means a pinpoint ground incursion to save hostages is impossible. It is a comment I see to easily made that Israel should be doing incursions to save hostages - I don’t see how this is feasibly possible.

Take the footage of the tunnel released today where they found the six hostages killed on the weekend. The tunnel head was in a children’s room where there were pictures of children’s characters on the wall. If Hamas are that enshrined in the population that they can build tunnels in this environment, how do you expect to Israel to act militarily?

Ps as a Jew, I don’t appreciate the equivocation with being a silent Nazi.

It is the bigger picture you intentionally ignore here.

You, like so many Zionists skirt around the horrors being carried out every day by the IDF and talk about Hamas and the right to defend itself. The rest of the world is referencing the actions of the IDF BEFORE October 7th and SINCE October 7th (Since then they have destroyed pretty much every school, hospital, university, ancient olive groves, vast swathes of entire cities, football stadiums, dug up roads, destroyed infrastructure, stopped aid convoys, turned off water, electric and internet, murdered many tens of thousands of innocent women and children, blown up refugee camps, markets, civilian convoys, murdered over 100 journalists, children trapped in cars, people waving white flags, shot all livestock, then they moved onto the West Bank (there was no Hamas), where they murdered many innocent civilians, claimed lands that are not theirs, destroyed villages, created police protected armed settler groups who carry out pogroms against their hosts … mate, the list is endless and anyone, absolutely anyone who sides with them is complicit in genocide)

I am not interested in the religious or ethnic/racial issues here, it is a simple question of humanity - what has happened to the people of Palestine at the hands of the Israeli people over the last 70 years is an utter disgrace. People like you cannot talk about it as you know, it is disgusting, you sweep it under the carpet and go back to bullet points that suit your narrative - same as @Cork Evertonian - he got absolutely schooled on here about the behaviour of Israel and promptly ignored it and disappeared for a while, raising his greasy head when some hostages got killed.
The world has woken up to what is happening, an intentional genocide at the hands of the Israelis, and people like you who ignore it, pretend/lie it aint happening are complicit in genocide.


Why do you (Zionisists) never talk abut the West Bank?? We all know, but I would like to hear it from you.



















 
I also keep hearing all this talk about Israel being invaders and stealing land from people, but that actually isn't true at all.

Jews have always lived in Israel, the Jewish homeland created more than 3,000 years ago and mentioned in the Bible and the Koran.
hahaha, I love this one! They weren't the only ones their you fool, it was not "their" homeland. Also, by your logic, should we return all lands to the natives? all whites out of USA, Australia, NZ, etc??

Thought not
 
So you are against targeted killings of Hamas leadership - a proscribed terrorist organisation by many countries around the world and behind the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust - and also take umbrage (as many do) with Israel striking Gaza and unfortunately killing innocents. Am I right to therefore conclude that you don’t agree with any military action of Israel whatsoever? If so, that is a standard we do not hold to any other country in the world who have faced an terror attack like that seen on October 7th.

I of course, like the majority of us do, decry any loss of innocent life in Gaza and anywhere in the world. My view is ultimately what do you expect Israel to do? It is faced with an enemy that in a strip of land that it forcibly removed its citizens from in 2005 and handed over the keys to. Once Hamas came in, they concentrated their funding on building underground rather than overground. Yes Gaza is a significantly overpopulated piece of land and Hamas have enshrined themselves within the civilian population which tragically means a pinpoint ground incursion to save hostages is impossible. It is a comment I see to easily made that Israel should be doing incursions to save hostages - I don’t see how this is feasibly possible.

Take the footage of the tunnel released today where they found the six hostages killed on the weekend. The tunnel head was in a children’s room where there were pictures of children’s characters on the wall. If Hamas are that enshrined in the population that they can build tunnels in this environment, how do you expect to Israel to act militarily?

Ps as a Jew, I don’t appreciate the equivocation with being a silent Nazi.

The ICC rightly leaders of both sides as war criminals, because they are. Yet only one country is being legally supplied arms by the west to the Israeli government, people are completely within their rights to call that out as it should not be happening as the force back is clearly well above what can be seen as reasonable. Hostages both sides are not being treated within international national, as there are repeated rapes and killings of Palestinian hostages/prisoners on the other side too

There is the West bank too with the settlers who obviously know the 'law' means absolutely nothing because....the government do not enforce it

The US were very much held to account with the Iraq war after a terror attack, a war which spawned even more terrorist cells, which this 'war' will probably do.

The Israeli military probably have the most advanced weapons, equipment in the world
There is absolutely no way they are using them the way they might be able to, as they clearly want to flatten gaza too
 
He is blissfully unaware of the other resistance groups such as PFLP, popular front for the liberation of palestine, founded by a Palestinian Christian...I exposed this ignorance weeks ago.

Also probably unaware of some of the oldest Christian churches in the world in palestine. Some destroyed / damaged by the IOF.

Probably oblivious of the Hasidic anti zionist Jews in palestine too...
 
I am a Christian and i consider the Jewish people to be our brothers and sisters.

They overcame the persecution of the Nazis, and they will also overcome the persecution of Hamas and its sympathisers come what may.
jeepers, youve been totally had, mate!

Your brothers and sisters would see you dead



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