Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Excuse the lengthy post, but I don't think this subject has been covered in this thread before.

Earlier this week Khalil Ja’u, 25, was shot by a gunman from a passing vehicle in the northern Israeli town of Umm al-Fahm, just a day after Israel passed the grim landmark of 100 murders this year in the Arab community. Several members of the Ja’u extended family have been killed over the past few years as part of the ongoing violence.

This means that 2021 is on track to be the bloodiest year for the Arab community since a crime wave began several years ago. The murder rate has risen sharply since 2015, when 64 Arab Israelis were killed, in comparison to 38 Jewish Israelis. In 2020, Jewish Israelis saw a similar 42 homicides, while Arab Israelis saw 96 violent deaths.

Many Arab Israelis blame the violence on organised crime, and accuse police of devoting too few resources to root it out in Arab communities. The police, for their part, say they receive little or no help from the community when they are investigating a crime. The violence is abetted by a tide of illegal weaponry. Hundreds of thousands of illegal guns are believed to be held in Israel, many of them in Arab communities. In 2020, there were some 400,000 illegal weapons in Israel. Former public security minister Gilad Erdan estimated that 70% of the illegal weapons were stolen from the Israeli army and police force. Police have sought to crack down on the free-flowing weapons through gun collection programs and arms raids, but seemingly to little avail.

Public Security Minister Omer Barlev said on Tuesday that “inequality and a disregard for distress” were playing key roles in the crisis of trust between the state and the Arab community. "Criminal and nationalist elements mingled and took to the streets to undermine public order. They fully exposed the severe crisis of trust that has long existed between Arab citizens of Israel and state institutions - a crisis that has grown and continues to grow against a backdrop of continuing inequality. It is urgent that it be dealt with.”

Years of under-funding and state neglect have led to a huge socio-economic gap between Arab and Jewish Israelis. In many Arab communities the roads are terrible, building cramped and crumbling. For an example of the difference between Arab and Jewish neighbourhoods, have a look at the city of Lod on Google maps; even from the air it's easy to tell which is which, and even more obvious on Streetview. That's not to say all Arabs live in poverty - there's a burgeoning middle-class - and in Lod there are areas where the two communities inter-mingle, but there is a large underbelly of society that has been left behind. Such squalid conditions tempt people into joining gangs or other criminal activities because they perceive it as a way to earn easy money and a glamorous lifestyle.

There is no doubt that the tribal clan system also aggravates the situation, creating an atmosphere of almost open warfare between rival families vying for control of cities and communities, and furthering a cycle of violence with revenge attacks spreading out over years. In addition, Arab Israeli society is changing - the traditional authorities - family elders and religious leaders - have been unable to prevent the disputes of the younger generation from leading to violence.

“The violence in our streets — it’s not just the neglect of the state institutions. It’s a problem in our society, as well, an educational one. Our young people have lost the ability to resolve problems through dialogue — every small problem can lead to murder,” said one community leader.“We have to be realistic. We have to recognise in our society: do we bear part of the responsibility? Yes, we bear part of the responsibility.”

Mansour Abbas, leader of the Ra'am party, now a member of the coalition government pointed out that “homicides are just one parameter in the violence. There are attempts to gun down mayors, threats, extortion, blackmail, domestic violence, and use of weapons in disputes.”

The problem is so bad that there has been a sea change in Arab Israeli attitudes toward the police, creating a remarkable consensus in favour of more effective policing. Trust in the police among Arab Israelis remains extremely low — around 19%, according to a 2019 study. But rather than telling the police to get out, as many did in years past, there is an increasing understanding that working with them is part of the solution. Compounding the problem is a fear of retribution against those who do work with the police.

Arab leaders have even called for Shin Bet to play a role and even Arab Joint List chairman Ayman Odeh — opposed to the government and the presence of an Arab party in it - has called for a greater police presence and activity:

“We have a police force that can do everything when it wants to. Don’t you know the names of the crime lords? We, the Joint List, are calling on you to f*** them up! We want you to bash in their faces! We want to live in a society without weapons! No weapons! What are they good for?”


In response, the Bennett/Lapid government has proposed new measures, with new police stations in Arab towns, and more officers and new units to prosecute gangs. A task force of senior officers has been formed, and groups of senior representatives of law enforcement agencies — including the Tax Authority, the State Attorney’s Office, police, and others — will meet on a weekly basis in an effort to coordinate their activities. More controversially, they have also acceded to requests for the involvement of Shin Bet and have given the police the power to conduct warrantless searches, moves that have been welcomed by the majority of the Arab community. Already, though, some of the Arab MKs have backtracked on their previous support, and I've no doubt that certain NGOs will be quick to seize on every misstep. Undoubtedly, though, the moves are open to abuse and the erosion of human rights has to be avoided: therefore there will need to be strict civilian oversight.


But stricter and more effective policing is not enough to cure the problem. The socio-economic gap has to be closed to make a life of crime less attractive to young men, many of them unemployed and under-educated. The influence of an Arab party in government has resulted in a massive NIS 35 billion ($10.3 billion) in total funding for the Arab community over the next five years to be included in next month's crucial budget. If passed, it will invest in dozens of initiatives, from urban planning to public health to Hebrew-language instruction and help to integrate Arabs into Israel’s burgeoning hi-tech sector.

As we know from this country, simply throwing money at a problem does not necessarily make it go away. In Israel, even the devil-incarnate, Bibi, threw money at the problem, with a much lauded at the time NIS 10 billion ($2.96 billion) allocated to local Arab governments in every field imaginable: to train teachers, build water and sewage pipes, renovate public buildings, subsidise employment etc. Unfortunately, while there were successes, much of the money failed to reach its target due to becoming bogged down in red tape, and vast amounts ended up in the pockets of the same crime lords that are at the heart of the problems of today.

Crime syndicates are still involved in the classic trades: weapons, drugs, prostitution, and protection rackets, but they also threaten and extort contractors, and they pressure municipalities directly, often by violent means, in attempts to take over development projects. Municipality heads were targeted by criminals - at least 15 Arab mayors were targeted by gunfire in 2019, others had their cars set ablaze, Molotov cocktails thrown at their houses, or had family members threatened.

The government say they have measures in place to prevent this from happening again with more supervision of the bidding process, much of which will be digitalised to allow less manipulation of the system. I hope they are right. What is certain is that it will take years to fully resolve the problems and there will be plenty of setbacks along the way, and tragically there will be more bloodshed - I doubt the clans and gang leaders will go quietly.

For me this is the most important domestic issue this government has to deal with, not just in an attempt to eradicate crime and bring greater parity between Jewish and Arab communities, but also because the future of positive Arab engagement in government probably depends on it succeeding. For that last reason there are many on the Israeli right and some in the Arab community who hope it fails and the government collapses having achieved nothing. Outside of Israel there are those, including Hamas and their supporters, who are already embarrassed by an Islamist party sharing power with Jews and will do all they can to undermine it. There can be no procrastination from any part of the government - once the budget is (hopefully) passed they have to get on with it.

Two points to finish with: There is a similar, though less well documented, problem in the West Bank, where it is even more clan orientated. (In Gaza, Hamas and the clans work together). Secondly, there will be those who suggest that the gulf between Arab communities and their Jewish counterparts is an example of apartheid. I disagree - it's a flawed society, certainly, but show me one that isn't. I mentioned the burgeoning middle class earlier, and as just one example I'd cite the 2020 figures that show 46% of all new licensed doctors are Arab, as are 57% of new pharmacists; 50% of new nurses (many of them male); and 53% of all newly licensed dentists. That doesn't alter the problems that need to be addressed and I think most fair-minded people would want the government to survive and get on with the task of ending the crime wave and begin the process of 'levelling up' society.
 
Well good old Israel seems hell bent on starting WW III with the announcement that $1.5 Billion has been allocated to training and prep for a strike on Iran. The purpose of which is to totally destroy the Iranian nuclear programme.

Training will commence early 2022 and will be supported by the development and deployment of new deep strike munitions, new high-tech attack drones and enhanced cyber warfare capabilities.

If you don’t have a bunker in your back garden then I suggest you start digging.
 
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Well good old Israel seems hell bent on starting WW III with the announcement that $1.5 Billion has been allocated to training and prep for a strike on Iran. The purpose of which is to totally destroy the Iranian nuclear programme.

Training will commence early 2022 and will be supported by the development and deployment of new deep strike munitions, new high-tech attack drones and enhanced cyber warfare capabilities.

If you don’t have a bunker in your back garden then I suggest you start digging.

I think the China-Taiwan rumble will beat them to it.
 
After a chaotic day, the families in the Sheikh Jarrah case have rejected the compromise offered by the Israeli court.

Overnight and morning reports in the Arab media suggested that the families, while split, had agreed to the offer and their signed acceptance was due to be delivered to the court today. I must confess to being very surprised by this as the families had been put under intense pressure to refuse by political activists, religious leaders and political parties, while last week two of the families (easy to guess one) phoned Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh - hope they reversed the charges as calls to Qatar would be almost as expensive as the annual rent they would have had to pay - who urged them to turn the offer down. This statement was released by Hamas shortly after:

"The Sheikh Jarrah dispute is no longer a local Jerusalem and Palestinian issue, but has become a global issue thanks to the steadfastness of the people of the neighbourhood and the support of Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims and the rest of the international community.”

This morning it was suggested the families had been persuaded to sign the settlement by several parties from inside and outside the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood, including figures from the Sheikh Jarrah people's committee. The Palestinian Authority let it be known that it supported the decision taken by the residents, but noted that there were ongoing attempts by some parties to persuade the families to withdraw from submitting the document.

The next statement came from the preacher of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Ikrima Sabri, who called on the families to reject the settlement because it "is the national and legitimate position and duty."
He added, “The danger of this settlement with the occupation’s possession of Sheikh Jarrah’s lands will enable him to besiege Al-Aqsa Mosque from the northern side and seek to besiege it from the southern side."

This was followed by a new statement from the Palestinian Authority: "We are opposed to any deal on Sheikh Jarrah. The issue is mainly political: the courts of the Israeli occupation are only a tool to serve their government institution to implement its plans in Palestine, and the occupied city of Jerusalem in particular."

That this is the opposite of what the PA were reported to have said earlier is classic PA.

Shortly after the families received a visit from senior members of the PA and Fatah.

When the meeting ended a statement was issued rejecting the settlement.

“We unanimously reject the proposal… The occupation court is evading responsibility to issue a final judgement, and forcing us to choose between displacement from our homes or submitting to an unjust agreement. Such a deal distracts from the issue at hand: ethnic cleansing perpetrated by a by a settler-colonial judiciary and its settlers."

There may yet be further developments and clarifications but it looks as though the chance of a compromise has gone and the matter will be thrown back to the court. The willingness of some of the families to compromise suggests they know that legally they don't have a leg to stand on, but it doesn't come as a surprise that politics has again triumphed over common sense.
 
The Israeli authorities have published a survey on their mobile app asking the approx 120,000 West Bank Palestinians who (legally) work in Israel, plus the 30,000 or so who work in settlements, for their feedback on checkpoints.

My favourite: 'Did they hurt your feelings?'

https://form.jotform.com/213122621061438
 
Good news for impoverished Palestinians: the government have announced that Palestinians born in the country will now, for the first time, be allowed to work in professions such as engineering, medicine and law. Previously, they have been barred from more than 30 professions, restricted by law to low-paying blue-collar jobs often paying below the legal minimum wage.

However, opposition parties and trade unions have opposed the move, saying it is " a disguised attempt to naturalise Palestinians." Therefore it's likely that not all of the professions will be opened to Palestinians under the new decree.

Palestinians do not have citizenship or identity cards, which means they are not entitled to health, education, and other government services. Almost of them live in 12 cramped refugee camps - purchasing land outside is illegal for them.

The move came in response to the economic collapse that is engulfing Lebanon, causing many educated professionals to flee abroad. It remains to be seen whether the new access to the job market is permanent or merely intended to cover the urgent need of the medical sector.


One of those Lebanese refugee camps - Burj al-Shemali - has been in the news in the last few days following an explosion in a mosque last Friday. Local sources said it was caused by an explosion in a Hamas arms depot inside the mosque - Hamas claimed it was exploding oxygen tanks stored there for covid. This claim was undermined when they were forced to admit that one of their operatives had been killed in the explosion.

The arms depot is part of the military infrastructure built by Hamas in southern Lebanon in recent years with the approval of Hezbollah and Iran.

When the dead man's funeral took place in the camp shooting broke out between Hamas and Fatah supporters, leaving four Hamas members dead and several more injured. Initially, Hamas claimed that the shooting broke out when one of their supporters dropped his gun and it went off accidentally, though this was disproved by video footage of a gunman opening fire at a crowd of panicking people. They then changed their story to accusing the PA of conducting the attack, something denied by the PA and Fatah - it remains unclear what exactly happened or who fired first.

This incident comes at a time of heightened tensions in the West Bank between the PA and Fatah against Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Yesterday saw shootings at a funeral in Nablus and more fighting between different political factions on a university campus; masked gunmen frequently patrol the streets of cities with the PA unable to maintain order; Hamas supporters are regularly arrested but they are mounting an expensive recruitment drive through an operation based in Turkey.

With all that going on plus the general ineptitude and corruption of the PA, perhaps no-one should be surprised by a Palestinian newspaper's opinion poll which suggests that a remarkable 93% of East Jerusalem Arabs preferred the city to remain under Israeli rule, with only 7% wanting it to be transferred to the Palestinian Authority, and barely any of those - just 6% - would be willing to give up their Israeli ID cards in favour of a Palestinian ID card.
 
Well good old Israel seems hell bent on starting WW III with the announcement that $1.5 Billion has been allocated to training and prep for a strike on Iran. The purpose of which is to totally destroy the Iranian nuclear programme.

Training will commence early 2022 and will be supported by the development and deployment of new deep strike munitions, new high-tech attack drones and enhanced cyber warfare capabilities.

If you don’t have a bunker in your back garden then I suggest you start digging.
destroy the Iranian nuclear program? oh no! so unfair those nasty Israelis trying to stop Iran from develioping nunclear weapons.
 
destroy the Iranian nuclear program? oh no! so unfair those nasty Israelis trying to stop Iran from develioping nunclear weapons.
Especially When they're upto their ears in similar supplied directly or in directly by the good old
merry cans.
 
Especially When they're upto their ears in similar supplied directly or in directly by the good old
merry cans.
hang on, you see them as equal players then? both just countries doing their thing. Iran sponsors terrorism all over the world, executes gays and children without a backward glance.
 
Strange political times indeed.

Anti American and anti Israel?

Check out the ' Friend's Of Oswald Mosely' website.

They are right behind you.
 
hang on, you see them as equal players then? both just countries doing their thing. Iran sponsors terrorism all over the world, executes gays and children without a backward glance.
Israel shoots kids for throwing stones. Sends in rocket air strikes against a few fireworks.
both as bad when it comes down to it.
 
nonsense. Worrying though that you could say that with a straight face

Israel is applying apartheid policies which even the Israeli human rights group acknowledges.

If you run an apartheid policies and refuse to negotiate a Palestinian state whilst turning a blind eye to settler violence you have no sympathy from me.
 
Israel is applying apartheid policies which even the Israeli human rights group acknowledges.

If you run an apartheid policies and refuse to negotiate a Palestinian state whilst turning a blind eye to settler violence you have no sympathy from me.
describe this apartheid. What is it that you object to in particular.
 
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