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Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state
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Toffeeslam
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Living under military rule
Israel decides who they can marry
Israel decides where they can go
No state at all and never see one
Lesser legal recourse to settlers
Can’t obtain building permits
Can’t go and work without permits from Israel
No right to choose in elections Israeli leader who directly impacts there lives.
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What are the policies that Israeli Arabs suffer from to justify calling it an apartheid state?
Toffeeslam
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I'm not understanding that. What are the policies that Israel has adopted which render its dealings with its Arab citizens apartheid?
Toffeeslam
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Palestinians are under apartheid what is difficult to understand ?
well if that's true, no doubt there will be legislation that Israel has enacted to treat its Arab citizens so badly. Can you give some examples?
I suspect though you are referring to those Palestinians who are not Israeli citizens, is that right?
Toffeeslam
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You know that’s what im talking about, 3m of them who have no right to self determination as even the PA are governed by the Israeli military.
But you keep banging about Israeli Arabs whilst looking the other way when Palestinians are involved.
setting aside the treatment of Palestinians as to who is who blame for what is going on there, I don;'t see how you can describe Israel sa an apartheid state, when the people you allege have been mistreated are not Israeli citizens and do not live within its' borders.
This is an important point, Israel is made up of twenty percent Arabs within its population. they enjoy the highest standard of living and longevity of anywhere in the Arab world. So to call it an apartheid state is nonsense. You can level accusations as to the treatment of people on its border, but that's an entirely different thing.
Toffeeslam
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The Palestinians do live within Israeli borders that’s why it’s an occupation. Israel is one of the few countries not to define its borders hence occupation.
Also the Qataris and Emirates also have a very standard of living as do Kuwaitis and Oman.
Palestinians are an occupied people
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Are you sure you want to describe rocket attacks as such. I think you may do any argument you may have as a bit biased….just saying like…..
we will have to disagree on what forms part of Israel. The fundamental point is that Arab citizens there are treated very well. My friend from university is a millionaire. such a situation would be unthinkable if the situations were reversed. No jew is safe to live in any part currently of the Arab world. And yet Israel is called an apartheid state. It's a disgusting slur. As to the occupied territories, yes everyone agrees it's a mess, but its' solutions are not straightforward, given the terrorist threat it presents. Trust is completely gone, and in such an atmosphere, Israel puts its defence first second and third, and who can blame it.
Dear lord. This thread ?
tsubaki
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“common sense” drones have invaded the forum
Israel Lands Law (1960)
Stipulates ownership of “Israel lands” – controlled by the state, Jewish National Fund and the Development Authority – can only be transferred between the three entities, knowing that the JNF leases land it owns to Jews only.
Ninety-three percent of the land in Israel is public and belongs to the state, JNF, or the Development Authority. Thirteen percent is controlled by the JNF, which has a “hugely influential” role in Israeli land policies.
Palestinian citizens are blocked from leasing about 80 percent of the land controlled by the state.
Absentees’ Property Law (1950)
Palestinian refugees expelled after November 29, 1947, are “absentees” and are denied any rights. Their land, houses/apartments, and bank accounts (movable and immovable property) were confiscated by the state.
Simultaneously, the Law of Return (1950) gave Jews from anywhere in the world the right to automatically become Israeli citizens.
Right to Residency (2018)
In March 2018, Israel passed a law allowing the interior minister to revoke the residency rights of any Palestinian in Jerusalem on the grounds of a “breach of loyalty” to Israel.
Right to family life
The Ban on Family Unification – introduced as an emergency regulation in 2003 following the outbreak of the second Intifada in 2000 – prevents family unification when one spouse is an Israeli citizen and the other is a resident of the occupied territories.
Thousands of Palestinian families have been affected by the law, forced to split apart, move abroad, or live in Israel in fear of constant deportation.
Last June, Israel’s parliament renewed the ban as part of the Citizenship and Entry into Israel law for the 15th year, making it in effect a permanent law.
Right to commemorate Nakba
Palestinians traditionally mark Israel’s official Independence Day as Nakba Day, a day of mourning and commemoration marking the expulsion of more than 700,000 Palestinians in 1948 to make way for the creation of the state of Israel.
The Nakba Law introduced in 2011 allows the finance minister to reduce funding or support to an institution if it holds an activity that commemorates Israel’s Independence Day as a day of mourning.
The law causes major harm to the principle of equality and the rights of Arab citizens to preserve their history and culture. The law deprives Arab citizens of their right to commemorate the Nabka, an integral part of their history.
Nation State Law 2018
It states that “the right to exercise national self-determination” in Israel is “unique to the Jewish people.”
It establishes Hebrew as Israel’s official language, and downgrades Arabic — a language widely spoken by Arab Israelis — to a “special status.”
It establishes “Jewish settlement as a national value” and mandates that the state “will labor to encourage and promote its establishment and development.”
I can go on, if you want...
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