Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Expel Hamas and let the Palestinians and Israelis negotiate, without a threat of terrorism, under the oversight of UN representation. Otherwise this will just continue, Gaza will be raised and the whole of the Gaza Strip will be completely cut off from Israel and any support, leaving Egypt as its only link. Israel will continue doing what it is doing in the West Bank and Palestinians will be the only ones who suffer…..not a pretty future….
So what if Israel is noted to be interfering with Palestinian politics and funding the next hamas- do we then interfere and saction Israel? Would you also agree that Israel has to give back land it's stolen?
 
They probably already have, while barely scratching Hamas. Remember the 10:1 rule. Hamas probably has 50,000 under arms. Kill 5,000 civilians, and even if they never harm another and wipe Hamas out, the problem comes back within a few years.

That's why current Israeli policy is absolute madness. Setting aside morality for a minute, everything we know about insurgency says they're making things worse, not better, for themselves. It's also a PR fiasco the Israeli government doesn't need, that flips Western voters' views of the conflict every day.

Add morality back into the equation, and it's clear enough that this is the short-term thinking of people who don't think they'll ever have to answer to anyone else for what they've done. Why should they? They don't answer to themselves.
Absolutely agree with this, especially the last part.
 
Pete I think you give far too much credence to the "son of a Hamas leader", as if he is an impartial expert in this. By his own admission, he is someone who sold out his own people to the occupying force.

Yet I would bet he knows more about it all, it is his father after all, than anyone else on here. But that is just discounted. So I put up his quotes, get a few laughing emojis and then the usual History lesson from 70 years ago. Hamas wasn’t around 70 years ago, they are a different form of terrorism, but everyone can just keep going on about history. Meanwhile thousands of Israelis and Palestinians have recently died. They are dying today. Even worse, without getting rid of the Hamas terrorists, thousands will continue to die and with no end in sight….cue a few laughing emoji’s from people who should know better…..
 
There does not seem to be any deliverable strategy coming out of Israel beyond destroying Hamas. If Hamas is as much of an idea as a force or is becoming a movement as a result of the targeting of Gaza I am at a loss as to how you destroy it. It feels like humans have too many leaders who are hate-filled bigots.
 
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