Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[tantavisiteler]

His husband is still being kept hostage. I'm sure she does what ever to give his husband better chances of surviving.
This is excellent sample of Hamas propaganda and you will be seeing this more in coming days.

Uh? But she did say she was beaten heavily when being captured. Only after they were friendly during her captivity

 

[TheFinnFan]

Uh? But she did say she was beaten heavily when being captured. Only after they were friendly during her captivity

Yup. Dont believe anything she says. Dont get me wrong it's good and heart warming that she's free but she is nothing but a pawn for those terrorists who released her.

 

[tantavisiteler]

Yup. Dont believe anything she says. Dont get me wrong it's good and heart warming that she's free but she is nothing but a pawn for those terrorists who released her.

She looks fine, not a scar on her face

 

[ramacca]

A functioning state has the right to have a police force, a standing army, an air force and a navy, if it's not landlocked.

 

[Blue 1]

A state has the right to have a police force, a standing army, an air force and a navy, if it's not landlocked.

When was this?

I remember Hamas saying they would accept a two state solution under a "hudna", which is a temporary cessation of hostilities, but I don't recall them ever disavowing their commitment to removing Israel from the map of the world.

A right-wing Israeli government would never accept the establishment of a Palestinian state on the West Bank, anyway, regardless of Hamas' position on the matter.

 

[ramacca]

When was this?

I remember Hamas saying they would accept a two state solution under a "hudna", which is a temporary cessation of hostilities, but I don't recall them ever disavowing their commitment to removing Israel from the map of the world.

A right-wing Israeli government would never accept the establishment of a Palestinian state on the West Bank, anyway, regardless of Hamas' position on the matter.

It's in their 2017 document.
"Hamas in 2017: The document in full | Middle East Eye" https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

 

[peteblue]

Sounds beautiful - for ISrael. The settlers are never EVER going to move! They have taken lands and homes from their hosts and attacked them regularly for protesting. This has gone too far for "peace". Your peace (in Israel's favour) would involve the map of Palestine staying pretty much as it is now, something that they (palestinians) cannot and obviously should not have to accept. It is slightly akin to Ukraine but far worse. The invading aggressor demands lands which are not theirs. For the victims it is either put up or shut up to people like you and Kevtherat/davek/zat

Tell me, do you honestly think Israel will revert back to any time, land wise, that Palestine can even begin to accept - honestly?

Also, expel hamas?? Not that easy, Pete.
Without threat of terrorism.....every day for Palestinians living with or near settlers
The whole of the GAza strip cut off from support....happens constantly - water, aid and energy routinely cut off.

“ The son of Hamas founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef, who defected from the terrorist group and served as an Israeli spy for years, is warning Americans and the rest of the world how his father and his army wants to 'annihilate' Jewish people and establish sharia law around the world.

Mosab Hassan Yousef, referred to as the 'Green Prince', spied on Hamas for Israel between 1997 and 2007. His intelligence prevented suicide bomb attacks and other strikes.

In a series of interviews with American media outlets today, he warned that his father and Hamas will not be satisfied with taking territorial Palestine alone, and that they are fighting a religious war to which there is no end for them.

'They are a religious movement this is what everybody is afraid to say. If Hamas was a political movement, we could satisfy their political ambition.

'But Hamas is a religious movement that does not believe in political borders - they want to establish an Islamic state on the rubble of the state of Israel.”…….

 

[Blue 1]

It's in their 2017 document.
"Hamas in 2017: The document in full | Middle East Eye" https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

There seem to be contradictory statements within this document.

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.

It doesn't strike me as the basis for a lasting peace.

 

[tsubaki]

In two bits of other news, Bibi’s son Yair is apparently still in Miami, and the Israelis have suspended all access to the al-Aqsa mosque for Muslims.

These fools have to be stopped and quickly.

 

[peteblue]

There seem to be contradictory statements within this document.

2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.

It doesn't strike me as the basis for a lasting peace.

Indeed…..

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

“ The son of Hamas founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef, who defected from the terrorist group and served as an Israeli spy for years, is warning Americans and the rest of the world how his father and his army wants to 'annihilate' Jewish people and establish sharia law around the world.

Mosab Hassan Yousef, referred to as the 'Green Prince', spied on Hamas for Israel between 1997 and 2007. His intelligence prevented suicide bomb attacks and other strikes.

In a series of interviews with American media outlets today, he warned that his father and Hamas will not be satisfied with taking territorial Palestine alone, and that they are fighting a religious war to which there is no end for them.

'They are a religious movement this is what everybody is afraid to say. If Hamas was a political movement, we could satisfy their political ambition.

'But Hamas is a religious movement that does not believe in political borders - they want to establish an Islamic state on the rubble of the state of Israel.”…….

You avoided every single point/question

 

[peteblue]

You avoided every single point/question

I think my post, and that just above from Blue1, demonstrate that there is no outcome that will be acceptable to Hamas anyway…evidently the Israelis understand this, so if Hamas is allowed to continue then the Palestinians are well and truly screwed…..

 

[Blue 1]

I think my post, and that just above from Blue1, demonstrate that there is no outcome that will be acceptable to Hamas anyway…evidently the Israelis understand this, so if Hamas is allowed to continue then the Palestinians are well and truly screwed…..

It is mad how the media never talks about how the religious settlers, who wield serious power within the Israeli government and army these days, who have a near-idential mission, though. They really are little different.

 

[peteblue]

You avoided every single point/question

In addition from the son of a Hamas Leader…

“ He also said the group initiates war with the Israelis every few years when they 'need money'.

'This war, Israel did not start. Hamas started this war. Hamas, blood for money, they start a war every few years when they want money they shed children's blood and this has to stop. This has to stop. It has to come to an end.

'Unfortunately the price is not going to be cheap.

'I feel very sorry for Israel that they have to go into Gaza where there are booby traps all over the place...I don't know how many Israeli soldiers have to die in order to destroy Hamas.'

Yousef then appeared on Fox News, where he said the group is 'more dangerous' than ISIS.

'Look at the division and the global confusion because of Hamas. They brought us to our knees somehow by their brutality and their barbarism. Brutality is even understating Hamas' acts.

'Hamas is a religious movement, and they are a raging religious movement against Israel. The mainstream media cannot say this because they are afraid to ignite a religious war.”…..

 

[DavidH]

Yup. Dont believe anything she says. Dont get me wrong it's good and heart warming that she's free but she is nothing but a pawn for those terrorists who released her.

Just do one soft lad.