Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Noisy noise annoys]

North and South Korea, Spain did it with Gibraltar, Argentina did it with Falklands…..it happens I’m afraid and in all cases the ones involved had to evolve to the new reality.

More concerning now are these ‘settlers’ in the West Bank terrorising ordinary and more peace loving Palestinians and that needs to be stopped by Israeli Police action…

Literally bollocks

As for the settlers, theyve been doing it every day for years

 

[davek]

I don't see names mentioned there, do you? Yes we can talk about inference, but in the post I was referring to (and the one you've quoted) the point is the same...

... does the evidence at the scene (crater, damage et al.) suggest beyond reasonable doubt that it's an air dropped bomb? I would say no.

Could the IDF have used an air launched rocket? Maybe. Could it be a Hamas rocket? Maybe. The evidence is currently, as mentioned below, inconclusive.


Aye, I've said a couple of times that there is evidence for both sides of the argument, which means we can't say for certain that it's one or the other.

The binary boys will take that as either supporting Hamas or Israel, rather than looking at it objectively and being appalled by the loss, whoever caused it.

A "misfiring rocket" was the Israeli's version of events, so it was obviously propagating that now known fallacy.

 

[PhilM]

A "misfiring rocket" was the Israeli's version of events, so it was obviously propagating that now known fallacy.

Believed to be… likely to be… yes. Known to be? Not yet. The damage doesn’t match that of a large bomb, so right now many aren’t sure of the cause.

The evidence doesn’t conclusively match either Israel’s or Hamas’s events, although admittedly more does sway towards some Israeli intervention.

Objectivity is the name of the game Dave, and sadly it’s often conveniently ignored.

 

[peteblue]

Literally bollocks

As for the settlers, theyve been doing it every day for years

No it isn’t ….it happens and then people work out a way of getting on…and it’s happened in every country on the planet at some point in history…

 

[Blue 1]

North and South Korea, Spain did it with Gibraltar, Argentina did it with Falklands…..it happens I’m afraid and in all cases the ones involved had to evolve to the new reality.

More concerning now are these ‘settlers’ in the West Bank terrorising ordinary and more peace loving Palestinians and that needs to be stopped by Israeli Police action…

The police aid and abet the settlers.

They enabled thousands of them marching into the al-aqsa compound in contravention of Israeli law last week.

About 6% of complaints of settler violence end in a conviction.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Believed to be… likely to be… yes. Known to be? Not yet. The damage doesn’t match that of a large bomb, so right now many aren’t sure of the cause.

The evidence doesn’t conclusively match either Israel’s or Hamas’s events, although admittedly more does sway towards some Israeli intervention.

Objectivity is the name of the game Dave, and sadly it’s often conveniently ignored.

Love to get further involved in this convo - but I’m currently wandering around Manchester uni

 

[TheFinnFan]

wow.

Whats "wow" about that?

 

[Wat Tyler]

It’s mad how people are trying all they can to make out Israel wouldn’t bomb the hospital but they have proven time and time and time again that this is exactly what they do. They are Known for bombing hospitals and schools, they are renowned for it.

 

[Zatara]

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Another different version .

Sorry can't link the full articles , but easy to find.

I don't see names mentioned there, do you? Yes we can talk about inference, but in the post I was referring to (and the one you've quoted) the point is the same...

... does the evidence at the scene (crater, damage et al.) suggest beyond reasonable doubt that it's an air dropped bomb? I would say no.

Could the IDF have used an air launched rocket? Maybe. Could it be a Hamas rocket? Maybe. The evidence is currently, as mentioned below, inconclusive.


Aye, I've said a couple of times that there is evidence for both sides of the argument, which means we can't say for certain that it's one or the other.

The binary boys will take that as either supporting Hamas or Israel, rather than looking at it objectively and being appalled by the loss, whoever caused it.

It’s mad how people are trying all they can to make out Israel wouldn’t bomb the hospital but they have proven time and time and time again that this is exactly what they do. They are Known for bombing hospitals and schools, they are renowned for it.

As others have posted (and I wrote at the time), the damage caused does not look like a missile strike.

Ive seen reports that 500 were affected (wounded/killed) and others that it was 5-10.

Ive seen Hamas smirking about it and so many blaming Israel who denied it.

The only evidence has pointed to it being Hamas.

It seems to be a stretch at this point to blame Israel. Which many are still doing.

Whatever the facts are, if Hamas werent terrorists many innocent lives wouldnt have been spared during the entire conflict.

 

[davek]

As others have posted (and I wrote at the time), the damage caused does not look like a missile strike.
Ive seen reports that 500 were affected (wounded/killed) and others that it was 5-10.
Ive seen Hamas smirking about it and so many blaming Israel who denied it.
The only evidence has pointed to it being Hamas.
It seems to be a stretch at this point to blame Israel. Which many are still doing.

Whatever the facts are, if Hamas werent terrorists many innocent lives wouldnt have been spared during the entire conflict.

lol lol lol lol

 

[Martin Alvito]

I don't see names mentioned there, do you? Yes we can talk about inference, but in the post I was referring to (and the one you've quoted) the point is the same...

... does the evidence at the scene (crater, damage et al.) suggest beyond reasonable doubt that it's an air dropped bomb? I would say no.

Could the IDF have used an air launched rocket? Maybe. Could it be a Hamas rocket? Maybe. The evidence is currently, as mentioned below, inconclusive.


Aye, I've said a couple of times that there is evidence for both sides of the argument, which means we can't say for certain that it's one or the other.

The binary boys will take that as either supporting Hamas or Israel, rather than looking at it objectively and being appalled by the loss, whoever caused it.

I'm not buying anything from anomymous security service officials. When we have people with reputations to protect drawing conclusions, we can revisit this.

 

[peteblue]

An interesting article on anti-semitism in the west…

The aftermath of Hamas’s attack on Israel has exposed the West’s moral collapse

The protests we are seeing have nothing to do with Israel and everything to do with problems here at home

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[trueblue84]

An interesting article on anti-semitism in the west…

The aftermath of Hamas’s attack on Israel has exposed the West’s moral collapse

The protests we are seeing have nothing to do with Israel and everything to do with problems here at home

www.telegraph.co.uk

Being critical of Israel isn't anti semitism.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

No it isn’t ….it happens and then people work out a way of getting on…and it’s happened in every country on the planet at some point in history…

Ok, mate. The blockade of aid, food, water and energy to children is normal actually, the decent thing to do. They deserve it fact

What do United Nations and amnesty international know anyway?!

You should be proud of your kind

 

[peteblue]

Ok, mate. The blockade of aid, food, water and energy to children is normal actually, the decent thing to do. They deserve it fact

What do United Nations and amnesty international know anyway?!

You should be proud of your kind

But you said it yourself, they are still physically connected to Egypt….