Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Noisy noise annoys]

Yes they limit all of that as a way of controlling them and because they also have a responsibility towards Gaza. But why should Israel have any responsibility or indeed any control. If the Gaza Strip was part of Egypt then Egypt would have responsibility both for its supply and good relations with Israel, but it isn’t. If the people of Gaza want total independence from Israel then get on with it, but that responsibility also includes getting on with your neighbours if you wish to trade with them…this happens all over the world to many countries …..

Utter utter sh**

Israel have the means to Allie aid into Gaza and decide not to

Name me two other countries that limit food, medical aid and energy into a city

It blows my mind that you attempt yo
Justify this behaviour

 

[DrEFC]

They probs will get some back at some point. Anyways, situation will be difficult for long time. Israel just suffered their 9/11 and this will shape their policies into distant future.
It doesnt look good for Palestina. They need clear regime change and only after that Something can happen to the good of Gazan people

wow.

 

[ramacca]

It is interesting that there is more and more talk about a, 'two state solution around the 1967 borders.

 

[DrEFC]

That Mark Austin interview...he's doing the classic trick of starting and stopping himself from talking as much as being interrupted...a strategy in the media to portray the interlocutor as unreasonable and overbearing.

It's a typical tactic used by oppressors to marginalise and 'other' those who are being oppressed.

Tbh I meant to post the second tweet in that post, but twitter is acting up something chronic.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

And the direction of travel that whatever hit the car park came at speed and from Israel...and that the 'conversation' the IDF 'captured' was indeed two different conversations spliced together to produce a bogus message...

I’m not saying who did it and who did not. I’m saying it wasn’t a bomb.

Artillery round - possibly, but again there was no shrapnel damage to cars or buildings. And I doubt a single artillery round could kill 500 people.

 

[davek]

Tbh I meant to post the second tweet in that post, but twitter is acting up something chronic.

 

[davek]

I’m not saying who did it and who did not. I’m saying it wasn’t a bomb.

Artillery round - possibly, but again there was no shrapnel damage to cars or buildings. And I doubt a single artillery round could kill 500 people.

The direction it came from tells you that - AND it's one that completely demolishes Israel's version of events.

 

[Ferguson1878]

Anyways, situation will be difficult for long time. Israel just suffered their 9/11 and this will shape their policies into distant future.

hopefully they won’t have much of one

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

It is interesting that there is more and more talk about a, 'two state solution around the 1967 borders.

Interesting only that people think isrsel will even pretend to think apout this

 

[PhilM]

The direction it came from tells you that - AND it's one that completely demolishes Israel's version of events.

It appears as if you're deliberately missing @Mutzo Nutzo's point. He hasn't talked about who is or isn't to blame, and lots of evidence does point towards the IDF.

However, what he and others have said is that the talk that it's a 500lb bomb from a jet doesn't match the evidence either.

 

[davek]

It appears as if you're deliberately missing @Mutzo Nutzo's point. He hasn't talked about who is or isn't to blame, and lots of evidence does point towards the IDF.

However, what he and others have said is that the talk that it's a 500lb bomb from a jet doesn't match the evidence either.

...erm...

This look like a rocket mis-fire not a bomb. Again I can’t be certain but it looks that way.

 

[blulouie]

It appears as if you're deliberately missing @Mutzo Nutzo's point. He hasn't talked about who is or isn't to blame, and lots of evidence does point towards the IDF.

However, what he and others have said is that the talk that it's a 500lb bomb from a jet doesn't match the evidence either.

Another different version .

Sorry can't link the full articles , but easy to find.

 

[PhilM]

...erm...

I don't see names mentioned there, do you? Yes we can talk about inference, but in the post I was referring to (and the one you've quoted) the point is the same...

... does the evidence at the scene (crater, damage et al.) suggest beyond reasonable doubt that it's an air dropped bomb? I would say no.

Could the IDF have used an air launched rocket? Maybe. Could it be a Hamas rocket? Maybe. The evidence is currently, as mentioned below, inconclusive.

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Another different version .

Sorry can't link the full articles , but easy to find.

Aye, I've said a couple of times that there is evidence for both sides of the argument, which means we can't say for certain that it's one or the other.

The binary boys will take that as either supporting Hamas or Israel, rather than looking at it objectively and being appalled by the loss, whoever caused it.

 

[peteblue]

Utter utter sh**

Israel have the means to Allie aid into Gaza and decide not to

Name me two other countries that limit food, medical aid and energy into a city

It blows my mind that you attempt yo
Justify this behaviour

North and South Korea, Spain did it with Gibraltar, Argentina did it with Falklands…..it happens I’m afraid and in all cases the ones involved had to evolve to the new reality.

More concerning now are these ‘settlers’ in the West Bank terrorising ordinary and more peace loving Palestinians and that needs to be stopped by Israeli Police action…

 

[ramacca]

Sunak said at Prime Minister Questions, that, 'British intelligence' will be investigating about the Gaza hospital missile attack. What a stupid thing to say. British intelligence told us that Saddam Hussein had WMD. I wouldn't trust them to investigate what's in a cheese sarnie. They have form for lying.
As do the French intelligence.

No, Germany and France didn't believe Iraq had WMD

Fifteen years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the debate continues over the events that led to the Iraq War

www.politifact.com