Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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larrygobfiend said:
We can argue the toss about it until the cows come home, but it won’t change anything.

Hamas opened the gates to hell when they launched that attack on Israel. They would’ve known what was to come.

The US and its usual allies have given Israel their blessing (on our behalf) to flatten Gaza and there’s nothing we can do about it.

It’s all so hopeless, part of me just wants to log off the internet forever and pretend all of this isn’t happening.
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It does make me wonder who advised them to attack Israel in a such a way because the reasoning (for Gaza) is shown to be arguably very and clearly unsound.

The response to Gaza and Hamas has been devastating. Did the attack exceed expectations? Did those involve get 'carried away'? What response did they want?

Personally, as times goes on, it suggests that those who've orchestrated the assault behind the scenes probably do not care about Gaza, Hamas or Palestine.

They may be mere pawns in the wider game: stretching Israel economically, politically and in the world order; attempting to make them pariahs.

Are Israel going to come out of all this strong? I sincerely doubt, and there'll be countries who will benefit from that in the long-term.
 
PhilM said:
It does make me wonder who advised them to attack Israel in a such a way because the reasoning (for Gaza) is shown to be arguably very and clearly unsound.

The response to Gaza and Hamas has been devastating. Did the attack exceed expectations? Did those involve get 'carried away'? What response did they want?

Personally, as times goes on, it suggests that those who've orchestrated the assault behind the scenes probably do not care about Gaza, Hamas or Palestine.

They may be mere pawns in the wider game: stretching Israel economically, politically and in the world order; attempting to make them pariahs.

Are Israel going to come out of all this strong? I sincerely doubt, and there'll be countries who will benefit from that in the long-term.
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I think you’re talking about Iran here? With a smattering of Putin thrown in.
 
PhilM said:
It does make me wonder who advised them to attack Israel in a such a way because the reasoning (for Gaza) is shown to be arguably very and clearly unsound.

The response to Gaza and Hamas has been devastating. Did the attack exceed expectations? Did those involve get 'carried away'? What response did they want?

Personally, as times goes on, it suggests that those who've orchestrated the assault behind the scenes probably do not care about Gaza, Hamas or Palestine.

They may be mere pawns in the wider game: stretching Israel economically, politically and in the world order; attempting to make them pariahs.

Are Israel going to come out of all this strong? I sincerely doubt, and there'll be countries who will benefit from that in the long-term.
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It has all the hallmarks of the Islamic Jihad pyschos, who actively court death and believe that everyone on both sides can be considered collateral damage, in their " holy war ".
 
PhilM said:
It does make me wonder who advised them to attack Israel in a such a way because the reasoning (for Gaza) is shown to be arguably very and clearly unsound.

The response to Gaza and Hamas has been devastating. Did the attack exceed expectations? Did those involve get 'carried away'? What response did they want?

Personally, as times goes on, it suggests that those who've orchestrated the assault behind the scenes probably do not care about Gaza, Hamas or Palestine.

They may be mere pawns in the wider game: stretching Israel economically, politically and in the world order; attempting to make them pariahs.

Are Israel going to come out of all this strong? I sincerely doubt, and there'll be countries who will benefit from that in the long-term.
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“Attempting to make them pariahs”? They already are, and this Israeli government deserves to be.
 
Eggs said:
….I can’t see Western leaders condemning Israeli attacks after the Hamas atrocities last week. There will be pressure applied in respect of aid and refugee corridors but the West wants Hamas destroyed and that is likely to come at a huge cost to Palestinians.

Western leaders are queueing up to visit Israel to show their support.
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That is because those Western leaders are idiots, Eggs.

You can condemn what’s happened in Israel whilst utterly rejecting what the Israeli government are clearly doing, which are war crimes on a scale beyond what we’ve seen at any point in the Ukraine war.

Continuing to embrace this carnage will destroy the international system our ancestors built, at the cost of much blood, for no gain and an almost certainly far worse situation down the line.

Israeli actions since 1967 created the PLO and then Hamas by radicalising Palestinians. This, if it’s not stopped, has every likelihood of radicalising the whole region.
 
PhilM said:
It does make me wonder who advised them to attack Israel in a such a way because the reasoning (for Gaza) is shown to be arguably very and clearly unsound.

The response to Gaza and Hamas has been devastating. Did the attack exceed expectations? Did those involve get 'carried away'? What response did they want?

Personally, as times goes on, it suggests that those who've orchestrated the assault behind the scenes probably do not care about Gaza, Hamas or Palestine.

They may be mere pawns in the wider game: stretching Israel economically, politically and in the world order; attempting to make them pariahs.

Are Israel going to come out of all this strong? I sincerely doubt, and there'll be countries who will benefit from that in the long-term.
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Forget about all that, the origins of this whole disaster were sown in the west and in Tel Aviv. They caused apartheid; they caused the reaction to it, and now they cause the further deaths of 4,000 people so far dropping bombs on innocent people.

You are victim blaming and-or insinuating sinister outsiders are to blame. Neither are. The west's attack dog in the Middle East the religious fundamentalist hijacked Israeli Government are.

It's really THAT simple.
 
Eggs said:
….I can’t see Western leaders condemning Israeli attacks after the Hamas atrocities last week. There will be pressure applied in respect of aid and refugee corridors but the West wants Hamas destroyed and that is likely to come at a huge cost to Palestinians.

Western leaders are queueing up to visit Israel to show their support.
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I’m talking about the historical treatment of Palestinians and the obvious horrific reaction to the terrorists actions last week. Mass murder by a government of innocent women and kids. These people were not responsible for the attacks and have been victims of israel their whole lives already
 
bullybeef said:
‘We want you to win’

Yeah, nice one Rishi lad.
It’s not a game of soccer ball, you freakin idiot!
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When he says "we" he means the Tory Party, Starmer and his parliamentary 'Labour' Party, anyone with fascists beliefs and the arms industry that makes a massive profit out of Israel's addiction to death and destruction.
 
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