Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[dublinbluenose]

"Zero evidence of an Israeli air strike on the hospital, but videos are surfacing of sustained rocket fire coming out of Gaza at the same time that the hospital blew up."

None of them time stamped, some from 2022 and seemingly played in reverse

Hamas dont have any bombs that could do that much damage. They must have launched thousands of rockets at Israel over the years, have any of them done even a fraction of the damage this strike did?

 

[peteblue]

its not like it at all, pete

It’s exactly the same. Countries take in refugees, it happens. I suggested that Jordan didn’t want to in order that the problem remained with Israel and you called that silly. Yet you are now saying the same thing…..

 

[Blue 1]

It’s exactly the same. Countries take in refugees, it happens. I suggested that Jordan didn’t want to in order that the problem remained with Israel and you called that silly. Yet you are now saying the same thing…..

Israel won't allow them to return, Pete. That's the difference.

 

[Ruairi77]

The only good reason to go is to stake out the position that the siege needs to stop. This is not what our news outlets are reporting, however.

What Blinken has been thrashing out over there is humanitarian plans to be implemented prior to the invasion that appears to be a foregone conclusion. Israel wants food, water and medicine going in through Rafah, but is balking at fuel due to concerns that it will end up in the hands of Hamas. I would imagine that Biden is also there to secure getting Americans out, though the Egyptians are refusing until aid starts flowing.

The whole thing will require cooperation, and both Egypt and Saudi Arabia have been yanking Blinken's chain. Egyptian rhetoric has not been kind (go figure), and Saudi's crown prince made Blinken wait for hours. It's not clear that all the parties will get over the line, though the urgency of the situation may put some objections on both sides to bed.

I don't think tying himself tacitly to an invasion of Gaza is a good move by Biden, but he likes face-to-face and it's hard to tell a president "No" in the best of times.

This can only be stopped by diplomacy.
Just NI on a larger scale. Talking is the only way to make any difference.
All Bibi is doing now is trying to cement his power by hoping his nation rallies around the flag while Hamas are gaining membership and local sympathy 10 fold. Both are bad faith operators and both are getting what they want.
The only way to break the cycle is talk.
At least Biden is trying.

 

[HSWR]

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas withdraws from meeting US President Joe Biden just breaking now...

That suggests that this visit from biden (or America generally) is designed to be one sided.

Only reason he would pull out of a meeting is because there was no actual planned discussion and more a dictating of terms being planned.

 

[peteblue]

Israel won't allow them to return, Pete. That's the difference.

I know that, that’s why they won’t do it, which was my original point…..

 

[TheFinnFan]

None of them time stamped, some from 2022 and seemingly played in reverse

Hamas dont have any bombs that could do that much damage. They must have launched thousands of rockets at Israel over the years, have any of them done even a fraction of the damage this strike did?

they boasted themselves that they have the bigger stuff and will engage...after that the tragedy happened. Dont know it could be either way. War is hell. All I know they should have evacuated days ago as Israel demanded.

 

[coollino]

 

[Goat]

they boasted themselves that they have the bigger stuff and will engage...after that the tragedy happened. Dont know it could be either way. War is hell. All I know they should have evacuated days ago as Israel demanded.

To where??

Get out of that hospital bed Ethel, we are going to a car park for safety, dont worry about those wires, they are only keeping you alive.

 

[peteblue]

same here mate i’d love israel
to get what it deserves petty like but i do , i hate them

Are you seriously saying that you would want the Israeli population to suffer because of the cretins running Hamas and the Israeli government…seriously……

 

[Dixieslaces]

It's not looking good....

 

[TheFinnFan]

"Following an analysis by the IDF's operational systems, a barrage of rockets was launched toward Israel, which passed in the vicinity of the hospital, when it was hit."
-IAF

 

[Tin-Tin]

Nothing to see here. This is not just on Israel imo. Its on every leader who rush to declare their support over the first few days and giving the green light to these acts with their initial statements.

They have blood on their hands.

 

[Ruairi77]

That suggests that this visit from biden (or America generally) is designed to be one sided.

Only reason he would pull out of a meeting is because there was no actual planned discussion and more a dictating of terms being planned.

Or because the perception in the West Bank is strongly anti American (which is fair enough) and Abbas could totally lose control if the meeting went ahead.

 

[tsubaki]

It’s exactly the same. Countries take in refugees, it happens. I suggested that Jordan didn’t want to in order that the problem remained with Israel and you called that silly. Yet you are now saying the same thing…..

It isn't, pete. The French did not ethnically cleanse Brittany and force those producers of wonderful onions across the channel into camps, where they have remained for many years.