Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

[Drumblue]

Changing the protocol despite most people in NI realising it is helping the NI economy to outperform the rest of the uk.
Levelling down

 

[Drumblue]

 

[Toffeepot]

You are. The USA telling us what we must do for them to ‘grant us’ a trade deal by undermining the U.K. single market is a non starter. Obama tried this one and was given two fingers, Biden and Pelosi will be gone soon enough…..

Doesn't matter if Kermit the Frog gets into power in the US, they will support the Good Friday Agreement
Call it a result of the necessary Irish diaspora. Irish Americans are an integral part of the electorate and well entrenched in the political and cultural fabric of the US.
Brexit was a mistake. Xenophobia coated in economic lies and scare tactics regarding national autonomy. The BS was needed to sway the non-xenophobes and it's them I feel sorry for. Seeing as NI voted to remain it is good that the GFA is of benifit to them. Pity Scotland can't benefit from similar.

 

[peteblue]

Doesn't matter if Kermit the Frog gets into power in the US, they will support the Good Friday Agreement
Call it a result of the necessary Irish diaspora. Irish Americans are an integral part of the electorate and well entrenched in the political and cultural fabric of the US.
Brexit was a mistake. Xenophobia coated in economic lies and scare tactics regarding national autonomy. The BS was needed to sway the non-xenophobes and it's them I feel sorry for. Seeing as NI voted to remain it is good that the GFA is of benifit to them. Pity Scotland can't benefit from similar.

The U.K. supports the GFA….

 

[dublinbluenose]

RTE should do it for the laugh

 

[woodsyni]

RTE should do it for the laugh

Ah FFS! Where am I going to watch drunken bigots live now!?

 

[woodsyni]

The U.K. supports the GFA….

Pete, you know there were only two options. Hard border (not good) or Irish sea border (not great). Nobody really gave a toss, if you are honest. Surveys proved it. Blame whoever you want, the facts were there from the start. I'd be more impressed if people just said they didn't give a toss. Not our problem. At least it would be honest.

 

[peteblue]

Pete, you know there were only two options. Hard border (not good) or Irish sea border (not great). Nobody really gave a toss, if you are honest. Surveys proved it. Blame whoever you want, the facts were there from the start. I'd be more impressed if people just said they didn't give a toss. Not our problem. At least it would be honest.

The only people, and I mean the only people who wanted a border were the EU. The application of the border could have been soft or hard, the EU seem to have insisted on an ultra hard border judging by the number of checks made as a % of the whole of the EU….

 

[woodsyni]

The only people, and I mean the only people who wanted a border were the EU. The application of the border could have been soft or hard, the EU seem to have insisted on an ultra hard border judging by the number of checks made as a % of the whole of the EU….

Still at the "holding hands out - nothing to do with us, mate" stage. If Johnson cared about the GFA, he wouldn't be unilaterally changing the deal he signed up to...but that'll be the EU's fault as well, of course. Bloody foreigners sticking to what they said in the first place!

 

[Armaghtoffee]

The only people, and I mean the only people who wanted a border were the EU. The application of the border could have been soft or hard, the EU seem to have insisted on an ultra hard border judging by the number of checks made as a % of the whole of the EU….

Wrong.

The DUP wanted a physical border despite their utterances.

 

[peteblue]

Wrong.

The DUP wanted a physical border despite their utterances.

The U.K. didn’t….

 

[Armaghtoffee]

The U.K. didn’t….

And you will be explaining to the DUP that they aren’t really considered as being an integral part of the U.K.and are being played like a fiddle.

They know it themselves Pete. Fiddle will be too Irish for their liking. We’ll shake hands on violen.

 

[peteblue]

And you will be explaining to the DUP that they aren’t really considered as being an integral part of the U.K.and are being played like a fiddle.

They know it themselves Pete. Fiddle will be too Irish for their liking. We’ll shake hands on violen.

The ‘deal’ needs to work for NI, ROI, rest of the U.K. and EU. and tbh, with goodwill it should. Unfortunately the way that the EU are applying it means it’s not working for the rest of the U.K. nor parts of NI. Now we all know that both the EU and ROI have done this to try and force NI into the ROI and to punish the UK for their own reasons. It really wouldn’t take a lot of effort to come to a sensible accommodation but the ROI and EU are sticking to their agenda’s. Now unfortunately for both of them the ‘deal’ contains article 16, the same article that the EU tried to invoke to stop Covid vaccine going into NI. So the U.K. will invoke the article within the parameters of the agreement and within the law. The EU will be upset and the ROI will be upset, but tbh they are doing nothing to ease the situation because they still want to punish the U.K…..

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

The ‘deal’ needs to work for NI, ROI, rest of the U.K. and EU. and tbh, with goodwill it should. Unfortunately the way that the EU are applying it means it’s not working for the rest of the U.K. nor parts of NI. Now we all know that both the EU and ROI have done this to try and force NI into the ROI and to punish the UK for their own reasons. It really wouldn’t take a lot of effort to come to a sensible accommodation but the ROI and EU are sticking to their agenda’s. Now unfortunately for both of them the ‘deal’ contains article 16, the same article that the EU tried to invoke to stop Covid vaccine going into NI. So the U.K. will invoke the article within the parameters of the agreement and within the law. The EU will be upset and the ROI will be upset, but tbh they are doing nothing to ease the situation because they still want to punish the U.K…..

You haven't a clue on this subject, and you have proven it over a long period of time. Parroting right wing bigots is not clever. Throughout the whole Brexit debate, this subject was always the circle that nobody could square, so when Johnson tried to bundle an agreement over the line everybody knew that chaos awaited. The choice was to have a border between Ireland and GB, or a border between ROI and NI. Johnson said that the former was never going to happen, then imposed the former. The latter will never happen, as everyone with half an ounce of intelligence knows. I agree with you that it is terrible to watch the EU doing what it has to do to protect the SM, and it is terrible to see Johnson doing what he always does by lying, but there you have it. Whingeing about the big bad EU doesn't cut it anymore. We continue towards a united Ireland, which is economically well underway. Who's to blame for that? Anyone who voted for Brexit-right wing crackpots, DUP, the tory press, Peteblue etc etc

 

[Taifi gorm]

RTE should do it for the laugh

There's more than a few in Dalymount that'll be at it