Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

[Bluerover]

Surely 'twit' is a typo ?

I am too polite

 

[woodsyni]

My Glens mate admitted quite a few years ago that NI might be better treated in a United Ireland than by GB - his mother definitely would not agree!!

In the past he has voted DUP but living in Weston s Mare for some years now.

NI has had a huge number of public servants for decades, so your point is well made. You are also correct that many of us are not interested in taking on nearly 900k (2011 census) who would be unhappy about joining us - we are certainly not perfect by any means. Like other countries we are more concerned with inflation, fuel prices, the health service and trying to recover from this ongoing pandemic.

I sense however taht GB will happily let go if the day comes as they are pumping huge money into maintaining the Union.

Donaldson is such a myopic muppet that he can't see how is petulance is teeing off everyone - across the island, in GB and particularly in the EU

Reckon your mate is right. If they hadn't bottled it and settled for the Partition, it would have been done, dusted and thousands of deaths averted. Makes me sad tbh.

 

[Caolam]

Today our DUP MLAs trooped up the hill to Stormont and signed the register to ensure they would be paid their salaries, and then refused to do the work for which they are paid. Given they represent people who are struggling to pay their way given the current financial crisis, this is a perverse situation.
In any other walk of life if you refuse to do your job you forfeit your wages. Time to stop paying these freeloaders, Boris wants to reduce the number of civil servants in the country, we'll start there.

 

[Goat]

Any sign of you lads voting to leave?

I have no idea why you stick around and deal with Boris and his bull.

 

[woodsyni]

Today our DUP MLAs trooped up the hill to Stormont and signed the register to ensure they would be paid their salaries, and then refused to do the work for which they are paid. Given they represent people who are struggling to pay their way given the current financial crisis, this is a perverse situation.
In any other walk of life if you refuse to do your job you forfeit your wages. Time to stop paying these freeloaders, Boris wants to reduce the number of civil servants in the country, we'll start there.

100% agree!!! They literally have no shame or honour! Scumbags, every one of them!

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Any sign of you lads voting to leave?

I have no idea why you stick around and deal with Boris and his bull.

Wheels well in motion Goat and I definitely see a Border Poll within 10 years. There is a middle ground in NI politics now and I believe the lure of immediate re-entry into the EU is what will sway the younger less bigoted voter.

 

[woodsyni]

Wheels well in motion Goat and I definitely see a Border Poll within 10 years. There is a middle ground in NI politics now and I believe the lure of immediate re-entry into the EU is what will sway the younger less bigoted voter.

I think it will be longer but if the DUP keep up their sh*te, it could be quicker. I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime but I really, really, really want to see their faces when it happens. (Cuts out Ulster Fries and beer - ok, I lied about the beer)

 

[Caolam]

I think it will be longer but if the DUP keep up their sh*te, it could be quicker. I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime but I really, really, really want to see their faces when it happens. (Cuts out Ulster Fries and beer - ok, I lied about the beer)

Five years ago I would have agreed that a United Ireland was a generation away, however Brexit and the lurch to the right of both the British government and the DUP has hastened that process. People are now starting to believe they are better off in the EU with Ireland, not because that prospect is great but because the alternative is so bad.

 

[woodsyni]

Five years ago I would have agreed that a United Ireland was a generation away, however Brexit and the lurch to the right of both the British government and the DUP has hastened that process. People are now starting to believe they are better off in the EU with Ireland, not because that prospect is great but because the alternative is so bad.

All fair comment and very possibly right. Never underestimate the ability of these arseh*les to drag these things out forever though.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

I think it will be longer but if the DUP keep up their sh*te, it could be quicker. I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime but I really, really, really want to see their faces when it happens. (Cuts out Ulster Fries and beer - ok, I lied about the beer)

Brexit provided the template of how not to do it. Referendum date will be set long in advance to allow proper politicking to explain what you are actually voting for.

While the middle ground has deservedly established its base, once the time comes for the Unification vote then basic demographics gives you a decent indicator as to how the dice will fall. That and simply the more progressive views of Nationalist parties will sway the vote.

 

[woodsyni]

Brexit provided the template of how not to do it. Referendum date will be set long in advance to allow proper politicking to explain what you are actually voting for.

While the middle ground has deservedly established its base, once the time comes for the Unification vote then basic demographics gives you a decent indicator as to how the dice will fall. That and simply the more progressive views of Nationalist parties will sway the vote.

Not just as confident that it's going to be as straightforward. If they go too soon, that'll be that for a long time. There are an awful lot of variables and the middle-grounders will be crucial. It'll come down to nitty gritty stuff like NHS, pensions and jobs, in my ill-informed opinion.

 

[Bluerover]

Sky News at 7 led with a special on the terrible reality that Blackpool is living. Highest drug rates, lowest life expectancy....people unable to have more thana couple of slices of bread and a few beans. A soup kitchen that used to have 14 customers now has 200 - my heart went out to them.

Here it is - if you can bear to watch - keep partying Boris. Nothing to see here its well north of Watford.

Cost of living crisis: Blackpool residents decide between heating and eating just to survive

Sky's Ashish Joshi has been to Blackpool where many residents are deciding between heating or eating.

news.sky.com

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Not just as confident that it's going to be as straightforward. If they go too soon, that'll be that for a long time. There are an awful lot of variables and the middle-grounders will be crucial. It'll come down to nitty gritty stuff like NHS, pensions and jobs, in my ill-informed opinion.

Good article in the Irish News during the week by Dennis Bradley re all Ireland health care. If you didn’t see it, basically the rise in private health care demonstrates that both health systems are in need of reform.

Pensions wise, that bit is actually straight forward and would form part of the exit strategy. A cut off point etc.

Jobs wise, why would any current employer leave in the event of unification? What we should be looking at is the investment opportunities from having all of the island in the EU again.

I have this sussed Woodsy ?

 

[peteblue]

Good article in the Irish News during the week by Dennis Bradley re all Ireland health care. If you didn’t see it, basically the rise in private health care demonstrates that both health systems are in need of reform.

Pensions wise, that bit is actually straight forward and would form part of the exit strategy. A cut off point etc.

Jobs wise, why would any current employer leave in the event of unification? What we should be looking at is the investment opportunities from having all of the island in the EU again.

I have this sussed Woodsy ?

thats woodsyni ffs……

 

[Armaghtoffee]

thats woodsyni ffs……

Quoted him directly, he will see the flares welcoming a new communication.