Modern technology of computerised cameras on wagons going in either direction will determine free trade!
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and what about movement of people?
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We're gonna build a wall and Mexico's gonna pay for it!
We're gonna build a wall and Mexico's gonna pay for it!
What about it - Ireland in general largest customer both North and South is the UK - not the EU!
That's why free movement on the island is a necessity for wealth and trade as I stated technology can determine who is coming and going each way - the other thing is before anything can be done the EU need to move their backsides to offer the UK a deal only then it can be decided into more bunkum crap from a desperate Polictical organisation playing games with a peace agreement!
roydo
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But if there is an open border, what with the ROI being part of the EU, then all those pesky Europeans would be able to cross it into the UK. Which a lot of Leavers dont want.
One more thing that hasnt exactly been thought through before folk voted about something they had no clue what the issues actually were. But hey, we can make our own rules now.
So your solution to the whole border issue, for both goods and people, is cameras? Have you been to the border?
the cameras would be for sale in Jonesborough market in about two weeks of going up
roydo
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So your solution to the whole border issue, for both goods and people, is cameras? Have you been to the border?
the cameras would be for sale in Jonesborough market in about two weeks of going up
The response will be "We voted to leave, get over it" mate.
That's also called democracy 17 .2 million voted Brexit in the U.K.!
gorgeousgeorgeEFC
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17.4 million.
Not at all, Joe.
The visible “hard” border was always there when I was a kid on visits to Ireland and my dad drove us from Belfast to Donegal or Dublin and back, in the early 60s before the balloon went up.
It was in the form of customs posts and weigh stations for trucks and the like.....but you knew it was there all right.
Now, you are maybe thinking of the military checkpoints which were set up along the border and you would be right in saying they only came into being as the Troubles progressed.
At least I don’t think there were armed military checkpoints before the Troubles....I certainly don’t remember any
I think Barnier knows more about NI than you do Tim, if you think bringing a visible “hard” border back into Ireland will not threaten the peace process.
Even before the Troubles there were sporadic attacks carried out on border posts and customs stations.
To think this will not happen again is naive in the extreme.
It would be foolish and quite frankly reckless of any politician dealing with this issue not to take the history of the region into account.
Thankfully Barnier and Mr. Varanker in Dublin seem to have more grasp of the situation and more interest in maintaining stability, peace and prosperity for the people of NI than the DUP and the rabid Tory Brexiteers have so I have no doubt a sensible soloution will be found and May will tell Foster to suck it up.
That's a total cop out. Peace is only under threat if some group seek to use this as an excuse. I don't accept the justification for violence and thankfully 99.9% of our people don't these days either. Barnier is very aloof and dangerous.
So you are ok with illegal immigrants occupying and moving back and forth throughout the northern part of Ireland once you guys leave the EU then? Because that's what the majority of non Irish and non British people in the south will become to the north.
That's essentially what you are saying. Screw Northern Ireland that's the Republics issue seems to be your assessment.
Also please elaborate this whole technology solution? I have heard that several time but a) who develops it? b) what does it do? c) who funds it and d) who owns it and installs it?
No because when we leave the EU our borders will be policed also eltronic tagging of dodgy number plates will be logged, it another let's put a spanner in the works by the EU - they no work permits will stop immigration and NI will be funded by the UK government as will all U.K. Ports and airports!
So freedom of movement for the Irish north and south except for those with dodgy number plates haha!!
ANPR is the solution then? How does that track southern reg vehicles? The systems were never linked as much as it was talked about.
ANPR already tracks license plates for their legitimacy as in if the car doesn't match what the cops see physically they get pulled over.
Also all the illegals have to do then is drive a car that is properly licensed, regged and well in order.
Or are you saying they will collect legally the information for immigration purposes?
Then that's restrictive and defeats the purpose of an open border for Irish citizens north and south.
And again is this system live? Does it have to be changed or upgraded for its new use? Or are you just guessing?
Not sure what you are getting at in the highlighted portion. What spanner? On what? Work permits mean nothing to illegals and nor do they mean anything to anyone willing to use their labour under the table. Are you suggesting that even if they crossed into the north illegally they would have no luck getting labour illegally? All countries have issues with this hence Trumps main agenda on Mexicans.
Also again MAy and her cronies have said there will be no hard border or well have suggested it and they want to keep NI as is if thats the case there will be no "ports" across the border.
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