You know he won't show his face in here right? We are all nasty irish gang members who hate England and gang up on him when he has an opinion just because
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I'm going to be back here in 29 days and I can wager my left kidney that they won't have come up with one near plausible solution to the backstop
I like McWilliams’s work as much as the next man...from way back in his Sunday Business Post days.
But let’s be honest, Bri...anyone with half a brain knew the price crash was inevitable well before it happened
Property price rises in the Tiger days were totally unsustainable.
I could see it happening closer to the time
I was in Vegas in Sept 07 and got talking to a chap from an American investment company.
He told me all the economists could see it coming but Governments worldwide did not want to rock the boat.
I came home ,done a bit of research and McWilliams was predicting this as far back as 2005/6.
I seperated from my wife shortly after and we sold 6 properties in varying degrees of equity.
she kept the family home but I took my cut and rented rather than buy again.
Glad I did because 6 months later it all went belly up.
I didn't dip my toe in the property market till 2012 when things hit near enough rock bottom.
However I digress ,yes we all knew it could not last but no one predicted it would fall that hard and that fast,
Mcwilliams did though
I was in Vegas in Sept 07 and got talking to a chap from an American investment company.
He told me all the economists could see it coming but Governments worldwide did not want to rock the boat.
I came home ,done a bit of research and McWilliams was predicting this as far back as 2005/6.
I seperated from my wife shortly after and we sold 6 properties in varying degrees of equity.
she kept the family home but I took my cut and rented rather than buy again.
Glad I did because 6 months later it all went belly up.
I didn't dip my toe in the property market till 2012 when things hit near enough rock bottom.
However I digress ,yes we all knew it could not last but no one predicted it would fall that hard and that fast,
Mcwilliams did though
I bought my first house in 2004, I remember McWilliams when he had is show on Newstalk saying the housing market was creating a bubble while I was saving for a deposit so that was at least 2004.
His podcast at the moment is very insightful if you have the time.
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I will defend @peteblue on this occasion. The man was advised not to come on this thread as he was just winding everyone up and acting like a clown. He agreed, and is now winding everyone up and acting like a clown on a lot of other sites bar this one. In fairness, he has kept to his side of the bargain. Good on you @peteblue.
Johnson has taken to calling the Backstop “undemocratic” since the July putsch put him into Downing Street and Dominic Cummings into power.
(this despite voting for the WA, Backstop and all, the day of May’s third attempt to get it through)
As everyone knows by now, or should know by now and there is no excuse for anyone not knowing by now, the Backstop is designed to avoid any visible or psychological re-manifestation of the British imposed border in Ireland.....itself the very epitome of the word “undemocratic” Johnson is so fond of using.
Northern Ireland voted to Remain in the Referendum.
Northern Ireland voted in two Remain candidates for its three seater constituency in the recent Euro elections.
The CBI in NI, the Ulster Farmers Union, the Trade Union Movement and the most of civic society in NI want, ideally, to stay in the EU but will happily accept the Backstop if we leave the EU.
Today more than half of the province’s local Assembly members wrote a letter to the EU urging them to stand resolute regarding the Backstop.
www.bbc.co.uk
More than half of the members of the Northern Ireland Assembly have signed a letter to the EU Council President Donald Tusk expressing their continuing support for the Brexit backstop.
The backstop is intended to guarantee there will be no hard border in Ireland after the UK leaves the EU.
It has been criticised by Prime Minister Boris Johnson as anti-democratic.
It has also been strongly opposed by the DUP.
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It is time Mr. Johnson started listening to the voice of the majority of people in NI and stop letting Sammy Tache and his gang ram their minority views down the throats of the NI populace and because of their intransigence are forcing the No Deal calamity on the island of Great Britain as well as the whole of Ireland.
They are getting away with it if course because they prop this rotten government up.
The simplest, most sensible and most amicable way out of this mess is for Johnson to tell the DUP to do one and ask the EU to revert to the May/Barnier deal of December 2017, which made provision for the NI only Backstop and allowed Great Britain to leave the EU.... customs union, single market et al.
Then dare them to vote his government down and risk Jeremy Corbyn getting into Downing Street.
That would be Hobson’s Choice for wee Sammy[/i]
(this despite voting for the WA, Backstop and all, the day of May’s third attempt to get it through)
As everyone knows by now, or should know by now and there is no excuse for anyone not knowing by now, the Backstop is designed to avoid any visible or psychological re-manifestation of the British imposed border in Ireland.....itself the very epitome of the word “undemocratic” Johnson is so fond of using.
Northern Ireland voted to Remain in the Referendum.
Northern Ireland voted in two Remain candidates for its three seater constituency in the recent Euro elections.
The CBI in NI, the Ulster Farmers Union, the Trade Union Movement and the most of civic society in NI want, ideally, to stay in the EU but will happily accept the Backstop if we leave the EU.
Today more than half of the province’s local Assembly members wrote a letter to the EU urging them to stand resolute regarding the Backstop.
MLA appeal over backstop in letter to Tusk
The letter, signed by a majority of MLAs, stresses their continuing support for the backstop.
www.bbc.co.uk
More than half of the members of the Northern Ireland Assembly have signed a letter to the EU Council President Donald Tusk expressing their continuing support for the Brexit backstop.
The backstop is intended to guarantee there will be no hard border in Ireland after the UK leaves the EU.
It has been criticised by Prime Minister Boris Johnson as anti-democratic.
It has also been strongly opposed by the DUP.
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It is time Mr. Johnson started listening to the voice of the majority of people in NI and stop letting Sammy Tache and his gang ram their minority views down the throats of the NI populace and because of their intransigence are forcing the No Deal calamity on the island of Great Britain as well as the whole of Ireland.
They are getting away with it if course because they prop this rotten government up.
The simplest, most sensible and most amicable way out of this mess is for Johnson to tell the DUP to do one and ask the EU to revert to the May/Barnier deal of December 2017, which made provision for the NI only Backstop and allowed Great Britain to leave the EU.... customs union, single market et al.
Then dare them to vote his government down and risk Jeremy Corbyn getting into Downing Street.
That would be Hobson’s Choice for wee Sammy
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Boris Johnson is playing politics with Northern Ireland’s ‘delicate balance’ | Matthew O’Toole
By asserting hard UK sovereignty in Northern Ireland, Johnson is risking a painfully won consensus, says former No 10 Brexit spokesperson Matthew O’Toole
Interesting posit here that the GFA “loosened” British control of NI.
I hadn’t thought of that before but for sure the dilemma Johnson finds himself in shows that no matter how much they pretend otherwise, the north of Ireland is not the north of England and it has never been nor will it ever be as “British as Finchley” as another empirical Tory PM once boasted.
Good article that and one that to an extent follows the ‘road map’ interpretation of the GFA.Boris Johnson is playing politics with Northern Ireland’s ‘delicate balance’ | Matthew O’Toole
By asserting hard UK sovereignty in Northern Ireland, Johnson is risking a painfully won consensus, says former No 10 Brexit spokesperson Matthew O’Toolewww.theguardian.com
Interesting posit here that the GFA “loosened” British control of NI.
I hadn’t thought of that before but for sure the dilemma Johnson finds himself in shows that no matter how much they pretend otherwise, the north of Ireland is not the north of England and it has never been nor will it ever be as “British as Finchley” as another empirical Tory PM once boasted.
For me, the downfall of the GFA was that it can be viewed by Unionists as copperfastening partition through the removal of articles 2 and 3 and accepting consent. It can also be viewed by Nationalists as a gateway to Unification.
Maybe just me but a cold eye over the GFA and it is entirely designed as a holding measure until constitutional change is effected. Yes it had to be sold as a ‘victory’ to all voters but I suspect Unionism hasn’t been fully prepared for what it will inevitably deliver.
In simple terms, the rapid change of NI politics and demographics since the signing of it is stark.
The GFA won Nationalist patience to live in a ‘British’ state until the time came to unify. Brexit has reaped up history that a new voting generation knew little of and has proved a timely reminder to their parents and grandparents.
Indeed.
Political or big “U” unionism has buried its head in the sand and refuses to prepare its loyalist base or small “u” unionists that nowt lasts forever and that change is in the air.
Hence the rise of the the small “u” unionists who do business though their Dublin branch and follow Ireland to Murrayfield or Twickers and who play golf in the K Club and who pack out the Grand Hotel in Malahide on weekends and their political party of choice, the Alliance Party.
The middle ground in NI is expanding and it is expanding because of small “u” unionists who find the European Union is more comfortable than the dreadful prospect of of the United Kingdom that emerges as Great Brexitannia.
The Aliance Party, Sinn Fein, the SDLP and the Greens are the pro Remain, pro Backstop bloc which truly represents and is truly representative of the majority of the population of NI and they have approached the EU themselves to support the Backstop.
It is pathetic hearing Jeffrey Donaldson trying to dismiss this cross community initiative on the grounds that political Unionism refuses to speak up for and represent the majority of people in Ulster (6 of 9), including many of their own voters and especially the Ulster Farmers Union, the agricultural wing if the DUP.
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King Kanute.
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Sadly there is zero chance of that happening, firstly because his No 1 priority is saving his own skin, and secondly because he has been sounding more unionist than the DUP themselves recently.
Unfortunately what we are witnessing from him at the moment is a load of bluster in a futile attempt to avoid taking the blame when the inevitable happens. It won't wash of course.
There in only one way left to resolve this mess and that is for the Westminster parliament to use every constitutional means they can muster to block Johnson.
Hopefully they succeed, otherwise there are extremely uncertain times ahead for NI when you also consider the impending reintroduction of Direct Rule due to the Stormont impasse, which in tandem with a No Deal Brexit is a recipe for disaster.
Basically if these events come to pass in a few months time, the British government will have driven a coach and horses right through the GFA and the consequences of that will be profound and lasting.
Never realised how much that statue looks like charlie haughey
wow, it does!
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