Emlynsqueakyvoice
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Explain please. Please!
Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit
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Emlynsqueakyvoice
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Okay, I will try to translate for you. You have said that nobody mentioned the Irish border issue to you, and asked that you be shown where ‘75% immigration checks on the border’ was mentioned. Pete, it wasn’t. You Sun readers were duped mate. The Irish border, which you apparently ignored when voting because it wasn’t on the ballot paper (!) has not been solved by proper politicians in the past, so the idea that these idiots could come up with an agreeable solution is nonsensical. Ireland wasn’t on the ballot paper as you had a binary choice, yes or no. You were told that it was a simple choice. You were told that these negotiations with the 27 would be ‘the easiest negotiations ever’. Pete, they aren’t. You were told that 350 million pounds could be redirected away from Brussels to our NHS. Pete, it won’t be. You were conned pal.
No one on this forum reads the sun. That's a pathetic attempt at point scoring.
And just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they were conned. It means they have a different view. Thankfully we live in a country where that is still considered ok, and people can still largely get along with each other.
Gwladysstreetlad
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No need for this. Proper below the belt. Nobody on here, regardless of their political opinions reads that rag.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I don’t read the sun. I haven’t been conned by anybody. I know precisely what I voted for....
That's a quick and effective way of losing an argument on here, or with anyone linked to the City of Liverpool.
Emlynsqueakyvoice
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You’re right. I apologise and withdraw that remark.
Winston Churchill once said that “Democracy is the absolute worst type of government......except for all the other types”.
And I have quoted this many times over the years and always thought it to be perfectly apposite.
Until now.
Trump tearing America apart......the shambles that has been foisted upon us by feuding Tories in government.....the political mess the voters in NI keep visiting on each other....etc.
Come on, Winston.....there has to be sommat better than this democratic recipe for tails wagging dogs
Charlie Sweet
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Sure that's another blood red line issue.
It grates me no end that this line isn't put back to the DUP when they whinge on about having to be in step with the rest of the UK
Carl O'Ancelotti
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Mary Robinson has chipped in on the border issue:
Hard border a 'visible opportunity' to disrupt peace process - Robinson
Former president Mary Robinson has said "mischief-makers" may be lying in wait to cause trouble if a hard border is imposed on the island of Ireland.
The comments come after Taoiseach Leo Varadkar warned of a risk of a return to violence, should customs posts be erected between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
Mr Varadkar has been accused of scaremongering after warning during this week's EU summit that a return to violence is a possibility in such a scenario post-Brexit.
Speaking to the Press Association at the One Young World summit in The Hague, Mrs Robinson, said a hard border could provide a "visible opportunity" to those who wish to disrupt the peace process.
The former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights said: "I think there is a real risk, if we had a hard border in Ireland, that there are people, as we would say, lying in the long grass, on both sides waiting to do mischief and unfortunately it could lead to that.
"We have had a peace process and a peace outcome that the world has admired. It's really important that, on the island of Ireland, we live in peace and friendship and harmony, and that is what we have been doing.
"And I think it's really important that we don't have a border that provides a visible opportunity for those who could be not only disruptive but actually go back to violence."
She added: "Most of the people that I have spoken to in Northern Ireland believe this."
She's right of course - the Chief Constable of the PSNI made a similar statement no long ago. It's not scaremongering - its stating the bleeding obvious.
Hard border a 'visible opportunity' to disrupt peace process - Robinson
Former president Mary Robinson has said "mischief-makers" may be lying in wait to cause trouble if a hard border is imposed on the island of Ireland.
The comments come after Taoiseach Leo Varadkar warned of a risk of a return to violence, should customs posts be erected between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
Mr Varadkar has been accused of scaremongering after warning during this week's EU summit that a return to violence is a possibility in such a scenario post-Brexit.
Speaking to the Press Association at the One Young World summit in The Hague, Mrs Robinson, said a hard border could provide a "visible opportunity" to those who wish to disrupt the peace process.
The former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights said: "I think there is a real risk, if we had a hard border in Ireland, that there are people, as we would say, lying in the long grass, on both sides waiting to do mischief and unfortunately it could lead to that.
"We have had a peace process and a peace outcome that the world has admired. It's really important that, on the island of Ireland, we live in peace and friendship and harmony, and that is what we have been doing.
"And I think it's really important that we don't have a border that provides a visible opportunity for those who could be not only disruptive but actually go back to violence."
She added: "Most of the people that I have spoken to in Northern Ireland believe this."
She's right of course - the Chief Constable of the PSNI made a similar statement no long ago. It's not scaremongering - its stating the bleeding obvious.
peteblue
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So the potential disruption caused by a couple of hundred terrorists should undermine a deal between nearly 500,000,000 people. I think we’ve lost the plot tbh.....ETA must be rubbing their hands.....
This post shows that you have little to no understanding of the British border in Ireland.
It’s your border, you put it there and yet you know nothing about it.
Carl O'Ancelotti
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Correct of course, but there is no point. Him and his ilk don't give an expletive about what happens here as a consequence of their Brexit decision and never will. As you will know that is why some people feel the necessity to take up arms unfortunately.
peteblue
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Because the U.K. refuse to put a border in...You and your nonsense are merely emphasising how a few terrorists are holding 500M people hostage....
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