Election year, isn't it?
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Of course it is. The Falklands war saved Thatcher didn't it?
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Zatara
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Assault on a US embassy (classed as US territory) is an act of war in the same way as if they had attacked NYC / LA etc...
The leader of that attack was blown up in the same car as one of the most evil people in the world...evil on a level similar to Osama Bin Laden. Solemani has taunted Trump saying he has people all around 'close' and where Trump would not know...and that Iran is watching Trump...
Hes also sent a clear threat to a US General saying he is responsible for Iranian policy (obvious as hes pictured and Iran have made videos) in war zones where US forces have been attacked by forces supported (armed and funded) by Iran.
So, an attack on the US embassy with Solemani behind it and with the leader of the attack leads to them both being blown up in the same week.
I think there will be some covert acts by Iran now so not to 'lose face' then Trump will send some missiles over again to wipe out key targets.
Its going to escalate now, but Iran have attacked the Saudis last year and attacked US forces and now attacked a US embassy.
I cant see or understand how anyone would have an issue with taking out the evil orchestrator of these attacks.
The leader of that attack was blown up in the same car as one of the most evil people in the world...evil on a level similar to Osama Bin Laden. Solemani has taunted Trump saying he has people all around 'close' and where Trump would not know...and that Iran is watching Trump...
Hes also sent a clear threat to a US General saying he is responsible for Iranian policy (obvious as hes pictured and Iran have made videos) in war zones where US forces have been attacked by forces supported (armed and funded) by Iran.
So, an attack on the US embassy with Solemani behind it and with the leader of the attack leads to them both being blown up in the same week.
I think there will be some covert acts by Iran now so not to 'lose face' then Trump will send some missiles over again to wipe out key targets.
Its going to escalate now, but Iran have attacked the Saudis last year and attacked US forces and now attacked a US embassy.
I cant see or understand how anyone would have an issue with taking out the evil orchestrator of these attacks.
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I do wonder how the US would react if a Rumsfeld or a Petraeus was taken out like that or their modern day equivalent
Did Trump find out he was a Vegan too?
I've not disputed any of these points and the main actor targeted has been known as such as you describe for 3 decades.
The questions of the moment are why now, why were Congress and our allies bypassed and was this action wise?
The US is quite capable of taking out any number of bad actors around the world. The ability to do so must be measured against the expected fallout from those directly impacted as well as the international community - which is why successive US and Israeli administrations refrained from doing what was done last night.
Some will claim this is US taking unauthorized action and engaging in international meddling. Many of those claims are just empty anti-American attitudes or anti-Trump blustering. "By what authority?" people will scream as they ignore that the architect of thousands of deaths needed no such authority to engage in his war crimes and yet these same speakers were largely silent about that.
Of course, one can certainly go back decades to rehash American meddling in the Middle East and lay blame on the US for continually building to events like this. I guess the argument would be that this cycle of strife has to be stopped at some point and that even if there is a strong argument for killing Soleimani, it's only going to start another cycle of conflict. I think that's a credible position, but it's attenuated and not black and white so most people won't be making it. Rather, it'll be Trump/US are evil and war criminal Soleimani wasn't that bad - a silly product of our time.
I take no issue with his killing and decline to call it an assassination. He was a war criminal actively engaging in military activities in a foreign land, and was directly engaging in warfare against the United States. I am concerned about what happens next - not about retaliation, but whether we'll be dragged into another quagmire where the objectives grow less obvious month by month.
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I’m surprised just how badly you e fallen for the rhetoric here. Who are the baddies? Iran who were willing to come in from the cold and signed a deal basically pushing for this with Obama (which was torn up by trump/Israel) or the country with bases all over the middle east (and indeed the world) that has invaded 23 countries since the war?!?!
Well, we'd either rethink our actions purportedly leading to the killing or retaliate. Which is the same position Iran is in. While I certainly would be angered by the killing of an American in that fashion, plenty of us recognize that America sticks its neck out with some regularity and that there could be consequences for doing so.
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Everyone knows he was a bad person, but people are questioning whether it will be worth the fallout. As posted above they’ve had the capability to do this for decades. Why now and what calculation of the consequences was done before? If a similarly high ranking US government or military official was taken out like that you’d expect a heavy retaliation
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Plenty of you, I.e the public, but not all. And certainly not at official levels
Find me one credible person saying Solemani wasnt that bad.
The big fear here is that, as with Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no strategy.
Also, this is just the next step on a path Trump took us down when he withdrew from the nuclear deal. No one has any idea where this path leads and that's the fear. The majority of Americans don't trust the commander and chief.
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