Current Affairs How do we tackle terrorism?

[Billy Dean]

Interesting thread

 

[Tubey]

Thing is, if they said, Ok, we are packing all this in, it would stop.

If we said, Ok, we will pack all this in, it wouldnt.

Absolutely spot on.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Thing is, if they said, Ok, we are packing all this in, it would stop.

If we said, Ok, we will pack all this in, it wouldnt.

Nail. On. Head.

 

[Billy Dean]

Thing is, if they said, Ok, we are packing all this in, it would stop.

If we said, Ok, we will pack all this in, it wouldnt.

Prove it. 100s of years of aggression suggests we wouldn't stop anything.

 

[ilikecheese]

Thing is, if they said, Ok, we are packing all this in, it would stop.

If we said, Ok, we will pack all this in, it wouldnt.

Right but don't you see how that would just fuel people's hate of America? Create a home for extremist behavior?

You look at the outrage some of the lads have in here regarding Manchester (rightly so mind), don't you think a similar outpouring of rage happens every time America bombs the crap out of a Muslim city and kills innocent civilians?

 

[Moomin]

Multiculturalism and integration shouldn't involve walking around with your missus in a face mask though and scaring the bejaysus outta the rest of society. French were right to ban this nonsense. Agree with the rest of your points though mate

If that scares the bejaysus of you, grow a backbone you flump.

The french muslims never really wore the burqa and most agreed with the ban.

 

[ilikecheese]

I see no justification for killing afghan civilians. I see no justification for terrorists killing British civilians. What I do see justification for is the British state doing more to clamp down on those radicalising young British citizens. The rights of our society as a whole are not trumped by the rights of any individual. We need to root out the radicalisers and the encouragers of murder off our streets.

OK now imagine you're an Afghani citizen and an American drone just killed your mate. Who is the terrorist now?

 

[roydo]

Prove it. 100s of years of aggression suggests we wouldn't stop anything.

Fair point.

Thing is, we dont actively target 8 year old girls. They do.

 

[Tubey]

Prove it. 100s of years of aggression suggests we wouldn't stop anything.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Really worth a read so you understand their mindset.

 

[roydo]

OK now imagine you're an Afghani citizen and an American drone just killed your mate. Who is the terrorist now?

Well maybe an obtuse angle. But I dont recall German, British, or Japanese folk turning into indiscriminate terrorists when their mates were killed by pretty much the same thing.

 

[longers]

People are actually scared of women in burkas ? Looool.

Fair point.

Thing is, we dont actively target 8 year old girls. They do.

Is there really any difference between classing kids as collateral damage and actively targeting them ? Either way you end up with dead children.

 

[John23]

If that scares the bejaysus of you, grow a backbone you flump.

The french muslims never really wore the burqa and most agreed with the ban.

No it doesn't scare me personally. Scares the kids though. If you or me walked around all day in a bally what do ya think would happen? Not only that but its a clear form of abuse on women by the CULT of men who force them to wear it. You either integrate or you don't. Simple as that. But sure there's not criticism of THE CULT allowed cause that's racist. Nonsense

 

[ilikecheese]

Fair point.

Thing is, we dont actively target 8 year old girls. They do.

According to the Long War Journal American drones have killed 160 children since 9/11

 

[Tubey]

According to the Long War Journal American drones have killed 160 children since 9/11

On purpose through avowed ideology?

Nope.

Therein is the difference.

 

[Moomin]

Well maybe an obtuse angle. But I dont recall German, British, or Japanese folk turning into indiscriminate terrorists when their mates were killed by pretty much the same thing.

In their eyes, we are the enemy. We are the ones going to destroy their families and way of life.

We and our way of life is seen as the evil to them.