Current Affairs How do we tackle terrorism?

[Seanjd]

I'll take a guess he did it in the name of alan.

An otherwise totally sane, straight thinking person blowing themselves supposedly in Te name of their religion, or somebody who is most likely brainwashed and conditioned to think like this? I'd say more than likely the second.

In which case, multiculturalism has got nothing to do with it.

 

[dandydan]

An otherwise totally sane, straight thinking person blowing themselves supposedly in Te name of their religion, or somebody who is most likely brainwashed and conditioned to think like this? I'd say more than likely the second.

In which case, multiculturalism has got nothing to do with it.

All cultures are equal and welcome. Even ones that can allow youngsters to be "brainwashed" into acts of mass murder.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Wipe out their strongholds, don't give the ideology a physical base to spring from.

The 'guerilla war' will continue but they won't have the same flag to wave.

The Islamic 'State' needs to be obliterated.

Wasn't he born and raised in Manchester?

Dropping a bomb on Syrian kids isn't going to do anything but give abhorrent justification for his actions.

The problem is much closer to home. @orly is right in that education is essential to prevent future atrocities.

 

[dandydan]

Anybody following events in the phillipines?

 

[Tubey]

Wasn't he born and raised in Manchester?

Dropping a bomb on Syrian kids isn't going to do anything but give abhorrent justification for his actions.

The problem is much closer to home. @orly is right in that education is essential to prevent future atrocities.

Firstly, yes he was born here. The point is the ideology was not. If these psycopaths see a 'caliphate' that they can be a part of and give a reason to their own rage, then they'll latch on to it. We need to destroy that inspiration.

Second, no amount of education of our kids would have done a thing to stop this. I simply do not understand that argument at all.

 

[Walken]

Anybody following events in the phillipines?

I work with quite a few of them

 

[chicoazul]

Very interesting read this thread.

I conclude that the answer from many for the "how do we tackle terrorism" question is "by pushing my agenda".

Not that I expected to find the answer on an Everton forum anyway like.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

Their hatred for Western Christian nations is built on those nations bombing the crap out of their homelands.

Who were the "Western Christian nations" bombing on Tuesday, September 11th, 2001?

 

[ilikecheese]

Who were the "Western Christian nations" bombing on Tuesday, September 11th, 2001?

Retaliation for America's terrible handling of the Middle East.

 

[longers]

Who were the "Western Christian nations" bombing on Tuesday, September 11th, 2001?

Are you suggesting that because the US wasn't bombing anyone at the exact time 9/11 happened this somehow overrides the exhaustive list of US intervention (resulting in innocent muslim deaths) over the past 2-3 decades ?

Did you know that UNICEF estimate over 500,000 Iraqi children have died due to UN sanctions since 1990. Even the most conservative estimates have it in the 200,000 range.

There is a famous interview with Madeline Albright (then US Ambassador to the UN) where she is asked about the estimated half a million children who have died because of the sanctions and her response was "this is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it"...

Let that sink in. 500,000... and that's not even including the deaths from the wars !!! It should also give you an idea of the level of apathy the western governments have towards innocent Muslims dying.

Like it or not Muslim extremists have a verrrrrrrrry long list of legit examples of the west screwing Muslims, they then use these examples to try and justify their atrocities.

 

[Mo' Better Blues]

All religion needs to be consigned to the bin, the majority of which are the product of Stone Age to the Middle Ages thinking, it's the 21st century and religion is an affront to rational thought, we are all on a rock which spins on it's axis around a ball of gas with a expected lifespan of 4-5 billion years, life is fascinating and wonderous, and for each of us it's a one time only thing, we do not need to spend it on our knees worshipping some invisible figment of pre-enlightenment thought and believing (and I wonder does anyone truly in their most private thoughts actually believe this) that after death there is a special 'place' where you go if you've been a good boy...

 

[ToffeeTim]

All religion needs to be consigned to the bin, the majority of which are the product of Stone Age to the Middle Ages thinking, it's the 21st century and religion is an affront to rational thought, we are all on a rock which spins on it's axis around a ball of gas with a expected lifespan of 4-5 billion years, life is fascinating and wonderous, and for each of us it's a one time only thing, we do not need to spend it on our knees worshipping some invisible figment of pre-enlightenment thought and believing (and I wonder does anyone truly in their most private thoughts actually believe this) that after death there is a special 'place' where you go if you've been a good boy...

Again this is not the answer at all. Billions through the years have been religious and not resorted to attacking and killing children. This is people using a twisted warped version of a religion, those who are filling the heads of young Muslims with the sort of hate that turns someone into a killer need to be rooted out and ostracised from society.

Anyone preaching violence in the name of any religion or cause should be locked up. The radicalisers are the root cause.

 

[Mrk]

Do you believe that?

Yes. If the 'establishment' wanted to influence the election, there are a thousand and one things they could do that would be more effective and less politically explosive.

 

[Mo' Better Blues]

Again this is not the answer at all. Billions through the years have been religious and not resorted to attacking and killing children. This is people using a twisted warped version of a religion, those who are filling the heads of young Muslims with the sort of hate that turns someone into a killer need to be rooted out and ostracised from society.

Anyone preaching violence in the name of any religion or cause should be locked up. The radicalisers are the root cause.

My point being that those billions through the years practising religion were the 'well I've never spent anytime in introspection I was just born into and indoctrinated into this particular religion and in my most private thoughts I don't actually believe it, I just go along with my peers' the 'extremists'or 'fanatics' seem to be the only real believers, I mean they actually study the texts and live by them, probably 98% of all 'believers' know next to nothing about the faith they happen to be part of...

 

[Cork Evertonian]

The war in Iraq was a disaster.The destabilization lead to all these extreme muslim insurgency groups, running riot in Iraq and the middle east and know they are running riot in Europe and the western world.The genie is well and truly out of the bottle now.To be honest im not sure what can be done at all.The damage is already done imo.