Holgate Racially Abused By Firmino - The Guardian

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Marius57 said:
Haven’t checked into here for a couple of days but Jesus, it’s scary how many people still don’t get it.
None of us know what was said. Firminio may be guilty, he may not be.
Regardless of that, Holgate should not have to publically state what has happened, or apologise publically if it is decided he misheard, that is between the players to sort out.
He has done this professionally. Raised the issue with the authorities who are investigating. The clubs, both EFC and LFC have acted professionally and have not discussed it publically and have let the investigation take place.

As Everton fans, actually, as football fans, we should support any player that speaks out about racism. Let’s support Holgate, and if it comes out he misheard, then we support him still, as everyone should, because he hasn’t done anything wrong. If he misheard, that is not an offence, and at least he hasn’t publically discussed it to throw shade at Firminio.

I assume most people on here are white, who haven’t experienced what it is like to be racially abused. Let’s not assume to understand and decide what is the right or wrong when we haven’t experienced it. I’m sure Holgate won’t have taken the decision to report it lightly.
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Spot on mate there's some complete and utter idiots in here.
 
Marius57 said:
Haven’t checked into here for a couple of days but Jesus, it’s scary how many people still don’t get it.
None of us know what was said. Firminio may be guilty, he may not be.
Regardless of that, Holgate should not have to publically state what has happened, or apologise publically if it is decided he misheard, that is between the players to sort out.
He has done this professionally. Raised the issue with the authorities who are investigating. The clubs, both EFC and LFC have acted professionally and have not discussed it publically and have let the investigation take place.

As Everton fans, actually, as football fans, we should support any player that speaks out about racism. Let’s support Holgate, and if it comes out he misheard, then we support him still, as everyone should, because he hasn’t done anything wrong. If he misheard, that is not an offence, and at least he hasn’t publically discussed it to throw shade at Firminio.

I assume most people on here are white, who haven’t experienced what it is like to be racially abused. Let’s not assume to understand and decide what is the right or wrong when we haven’t experienced it. I’m sure Holgate won’t have taken the decision to report it lightly.
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He hasn't misheard. He's heard and seen Firmino racially abuse him.

And I bet the delay here is the FA trying to find some way shape or form to word a statement to that effect and then minimize Firmino's ban.
 
Surely both players need to sit down in a room with an official, Holgate can ask what Firmino was saying and explain what he thinks he heard. Firmino can either say I said this or that, apologise for any confusion seeing as his words started this and if Mason accepts that then it's done.

Struggling to see any other way it be rectified as there no evidence to suggest it went either way.
 
radiostar said:
Surely both players need to sit down in a room with an official, Holgate can ask what Firmino was saying and explain what he thinks he heard. Firmino can either say I said this or that, apologise for any confusion seeing as his words started this and if Mason accepts that then it's done.

Struggling to see any other way it be rectified as there no evidence to suggest it went either way.
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Well no, as if Firmino was being racist he'd just saying he wasn't being racist wouldn't he?
 
Nymzee said:
Well no, as if Firmino was being racist he'd just saying he wasn't being racist wouldn't he?
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Yeah but he might explain what he did say and it might forge a bit of understanding between them, or he might admit to saying something, if asked face to face by Holgate.
 
radiostar said:
Surely both players need to sit down in a room with an official, Holgate can ask what Firmino was saying and explain what he thinks he heard. Firmino can either say I said this or that, apologise for any confusion seeing as his words started this and if Mason accepts that then it's done.

Struggling to see any other way it be rectified as there no evidence to suggest it went either way.
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Spectacularly bad idea
 
davek said:
He hasn't misheard. He's heard and seen Firmino racially abuse him.

And I bet the delay here is the FA trying to find some way shape or form to word a statement to that effect and then minimize Firmino's ban.
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I agree, In my opinion he hasn’t misheard and I completely believe Holgate and he has done everything properly and professionally. However, it is not me who has to judge what happened, and they will want to be 100% sure/will be trying to do why you say to minimise the ban. And as we haven’t heard or seen the tv angle needed, we cannot say with 100% certainty it happened.

My point was to the people who are saying Holgate needs punished if he misheard cause he accused Firminio. Just support him either way because most of us won’t have been subject to racism and can’t truly understand what he is going through or how he feels.
 
Did Madley referee a game after the fa cup in the league?

I noticed he's refereeing a championship game this Saturday.

Edit - noticed he didn't referee the following weekend in the PL - double edit - I see it's common for referees to have a 1 game break from PL so perhaps there's nothing in it that this weekend is his 2nd game he hasn't refereed in the PL
 
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