Current Affairs Harry and Meghan Part 3: I can't think of a snappy subtitle

[coollino]

If you have mental health issues, you speak to a doctor. Or a close friend. Or family (bridges burned). Or the Samaritans. She chose Oprah Winfrey. And got paid lots of money to do so.

She had a vested, financial interest to make the interview 'dramatic', so I don't trust a single word she said. No class, no dignity. She belongs on the Jeremy Kyle show.

How do you know she didn't talk to a close friend?

 

[Charro]

lol

OK mate x I'll just go back to being the unpaid carer of someone who has had severe mental health issues for nearly two decades and leave you to it.

Well, I’d like to think somebody in your situation would have more empathy towards Megan, so it’s strange to see the stance you’re taking.

 

[TN Toffee]

If you have mental health issues, you speak to a doctor. Or a close friend. Or family (bridges burned). Or the Samaritans. She chose Oprah Winfrey. And got paid lots of money to do so.

She had a vested, financial interest to make the interview 'dramatic', so I don't trust a single word she said. No class, no dignity. She belongs on the Jeremy Kyle show.

Didn’t she say in the interview that she attempted to get professional help and the palace flat out told her no?

I found them both to be easily sympathetic figures, but she also came off seeming incredibly naive to not fathom what she was getting herself into.

 

[Mr. White]

How do you know she didn't talk to a close friend?

She might have. And that's how it should be. Keep private matters private.

 

[Tubey]

Well, I’d like to think somebody in your situation would have more empathy towards Megan, so it’s strange to see the stance you’re taking.

If my partner decided for some odd reason to run a full page ad in every national newspaper saying "hey, I thought of killing myself", I wouldn't blame anyone for asking why the hell she's gone so public in saying that and what the motive could be for it.

My personal experiences are not a factor for me in judging whether or not Meghan is telling whoppers for financial and reputational gain. It's basically an objective subject matter. The emotional aspect of the subject matter is basically a shield you need to get over when looking at the bigger picture.

 

[Tubey]

Didn’t she say in the interview that she attempted to get professional help and the palace flat out told her no?

I found them both to be easily sympathetic figures, but she also came off seeming incredibly naive to not fathom what she was getting herself into.

I'd like to see this confirmed. I don't think this happened.

If it did, that's how she corroborates the story - say who she spoke to, the exact response, was it noted anywhere, what's the procedure. We've had none of that - it's all vague enough to neither prove or disprove.

 

[Tubey]

TBF I think Andrew's motives are much more likely to be financial - he isn't going to ever get his collar felt over that, but there are people (much more important people than him) who would and its in their interests for that whole investigation to be derailed by a focus on him.

I mean - its not from him that Epstein got his money, his political protection or his influence yet for some reason he's the one they are waiting to get.

His motives are funny in a way. I think he genuinely thought he was smart enough to make it all blow over by being 'Prince Charming' on TV.

Reality he's as thick as two short planks and came across as a blatant liar.

For him, it was about protecting his various gravy trains and simply wanting 'embarassment' to go away, as you're right; he'd never face comeuppance for what happened, same as Brett Kavanaugh in the US.

 

[LostLegend]

Also:




CLAIMED!!

 

[longers]

Cancelling is why we have extremes in society now. Everyone wants a fully agreeable platform/safe space where they aren't challenged, so they never evolve their opinions and instead continue to yell into and listen back in their own echo chambers.

We’ve had extremists in society for centuries, it’s not some new thing because of cancel culture

There are numerous reasons for having extremes in society but I can say with a very large degree of certainty that 'cancel culture' is very near the bottom of the list of reasons. It's only become a 'thing' to whine about in the past couple or so years...

 

[tsubaki]

Didn’t she say in the interview that she attempted to get professional help and the palace flat out told her no?

I found them both to be easily sympathetic figures, but she also came off seeming incredibly naive to not fathom what she was getting herself into.

This is one of the things that is most revealing about this debate - this whole saga was sparked by how the press were treating her, and we've had serial examples of press ill-treatment of people for decades (including specifically him blaming them for his mum's death, not unreasonably).

We all recognize consciously or subconsciously the power the press wield, and yet everywhere people are talking about symptoms rather than what the actual disease is.

 

[Tubey]

We’ve had extremists in society for centuries dude, it’s not some new thing because of cancel culture lol

There are numerous reasons for having extremes in society but I can say with absolute certainty that 'cancel culture' has to be very near the bottom of the lists. It's only become a 'thing' for cretins to whine about in the past couple or so years...

It's worse now because of increased globalisation and communications technology. Everyone forms a view and sets camp in seconds now, they interact with people of similar mindsets more easily and it creates massive groups on either 'side' in any debate and forments a siege mentality in them, basically resulting in cultist levels of behaviour.

So no, it's not new, but the severity of it is far worse than it was even as recently as 10/15 years ago.

 

[Tubey]

This is one of the things that is most revealing about this debate - this whole saga was sparked by how the press were treating her, and we've had serial examples of press ill-treatment of people for decades (including specifically him blaming them for his mum's death, not unreasonably).

We all recognize consciously or subconsciously the power the press wield, and yet everywhere people are talking about symptoms rather than what the actual disease is.

She's weaponised that though.

She moaned about the press acting like a firing squad waiting for the next shot, and then she repeatedly carries on handing them the bullets. Because how else do you explain the fundamental contradiction - moving to the US to 'escape' the press, whilst simultaneously setting up a brand, being on TV every 10 minutes through hundreds of endeavours and interviews and then setting up a grandstand 2 hour interview on Oprah?

People call that naive of her... really though? It feels like she's orchestrated it all to me.

And, again, good on her, as she's profited big-time from it.

 

[Mr. White]

Didn’t she say in the interview that she attempted to get professional help and the palace flat out told her no?

I found them both to be easily sympathetic figures, but she also came off seeming incredibly naive to not fathom what she was getting herself into.

Honestly, I don't know. I didn't watch it all. But, she seems like an exceptionally strong character. I find it hard to believe that she would take no for an answer.

As for being naive, I think we all know the British tabloid press are the scum of the earth, and what being in the Royal Family would entail. She would have known this. There is no way on earth that she wouldn't have known what she was getting in to. Maybe she underestimated how bad it would be? I can understand her wanting to get away from the British press. But do so with dignity.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Just going to pop in the Depression thread and tell everyone in there they are liars as we cant prove what they are saying and private matters should be kept private, not aired on a football forum in front of an audience of thousands.

Bunch of attention seekers

 

[BlueStevie35]

She might have. And that's how it should be. Keep private matters private.

That right there is why there’s still a stigmata about mental health