But he didnt use any bad words or get prosecuted in court, so it's not actual racism. That seems to be the play in here from the gammeretti
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Barnfred 55
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And that supervisor deserved a slap for what he/she said. And I'm pretty certain that the majority of people in this country who are 50 and white would agree with me. Because believe it or not, most people in this country are decent.
But as I said earlier, government, local government and most large business's now have equal opportunities policies and are striving, not just to employ more from the minority groups, but to promote them through the organisations too. They have a job on their hands because there are decades of discrimination to claw back. But many have set themselves challenging targets, and the only way to get close to those targets is to positively discriminate in favour of those minority groups.
The lady in question was unfortunate to apply for a job where you work which appears to be stuck in the past. However many more from minority groups will be receiving a completely different experience when they apply for jobs and it's important that we don't lose sight of that.
I worked in a bar job for a well known pub chain and when they were taking on staff they would only contact the applications with white British’ names. Foreign sounding names would go straight in the bin. That was 15 years ago.
coollino
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She ended up getting the job lol
The supervisor is one of those people who has never left their village.
Barnfred 55
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Thanks for responding. I thought I would have had a few more because I think it was pretty obvious I was going fishing in that post. I agree with everything you say there and can I say it was also very tactfully put..
I have to confess I was embellishing a bit as regards the local college job. The reason she disclosed more than she perhaps should have done to me is because I know her socially as she is my neighbour. I actually have already been accepted for that job which is where the embellishment came in. But it's a part time job, on a zero hour contract, with working hours sporadic and flexibility required. The role was therefore ideally suited to people in my position, and it was not expected that many people from the minority groups would have applied. There were also a large number of jobs available due to a number of changes in practices which basically meant anybody who applied and passed the DBS check was offered the job. But my discussions with the HR manager around the subject of minority groups did take place though. She told me they were under immense pressure to get the numbers up across the board and therefore preference was given to them wherever possible.
Personally I'm not that bothered about the situation. I am self aware enough to realise that I benefitted greatly from a system where my circumstance gave me certain privileges. I went to a very good secondary school, one in which I was practically guaranteed a job in banking (which was my chosen career) provided I had English and Maths O levels. I actually went in with decent A levels so was fast tracked through the banking exams too. In my school, out f 90 pupils in my year, only 2 were black or mixed race, and 1 was Asian.
I'm now retired but not in receipt of state pension yet so need some part time income to make my company pension work for me. I accept that there is a lot of realignment required to make things fairer, so if I'm overlooked for certain jobs I accept that they need it more than I do. But the same cannot be said for the younger white hetero men (and women), some of who may have families, who are now being discriminated against in much the same way as the minority groups were, and still are in many cases.
It's a difficult situation and I don't know what the answer is. But I can understand why some of the younger white people getting passed over for jobs are getting resentful, in much the same way that black and Asian people were before. I know you say that they still get a fair crack, and maybe that's true, but all I'm saying is discrimination doesn't just work one way nowadays.
All discrimination is wrong.
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Barnfred 55
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Good. I didn't expect that.lol
Seriously though, I worked in a bank, one of the big ones. If one of the managers came out of an interview and said that and somebody reported them, they could lose their job for it. Proving it would be the difficult bit, but they would need a plausible "alternative" reason for saying it.
Alan Whittle
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... I see ageism is ok though.lol
Pipe down fossil!
GwladysPhil
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I'll gaurantee this isn't true,
sdk
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1) Any favoring of minority demographics does disadvantage a white dude, but the white demographic has had many generations of access not enjoyed by it's minority counterparts. This has resulted in what are, in aggregate, much different starting points in re: wealth, experience, connections, and access to resources. If you hope to establish a level playing field without adjusting for these differences, it isn't actually a level playing field and the traditionally more empowered demographic will continue enjoying artificial advantages in relation to the rest of society. Ideally, at some point the legacy advantages and disadvantages will even out with the results of more recent efforts to redress generations of white preferment, at which point more recent preferments for nonwhite demographics could be dropped.
2) It's not racist to bring up the topic, but white, hetero, healthy males in their late 50s have denied the entitlement of nonwhite, nonhetero, nonmales to work opportunities for eons, so one must recognize that human experience is often too complicated to be simply fair.
Barnfred 55
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I've acknowledged most of that in a subsequent post. And at least you recognise that many white ethnics are now being racially discriminated against in the UK, even if it is only for the purpose of redressing an imbalance. It does exist though, and that is a fact many in this thread seem incapable of accepting. In fact the mere mention of it in here has led to people being called racist, which is why I posed the question.
And I have to correct you on your second point. It was not the average white, hetero healthy males in their late 50s that have denied the entitlement of non-white, nonhetero, nonmales to work opportunities for eons. It was the system.
Barnfred 55
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I'm not too sure mate. I can't believe this sort of thing is happening in large companies these days, but wouldn't be prepared to guarantee it wasn't 15 years ago.
Disgruntledgoat
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I do something similar when I'm recruiting and throw 50% of the CVs in the bin at random.
I don't want unlucky people working for me.
sdk
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That's a distinction without a difference.
Do you want fairness or do you want "fairness" that doesn't eliminate the artificial advantages white guys have enjoyed for generations and which continues giving them a starting position leagues ahead of traditionally less advantaged people?
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