GOT Wrestle Fest Fan Thread

People don't want him to go heel though, they want him to go away. Him being face or heel doesn't change the fact that's he's an utter clown with charisma equal to a squashed snail. There's a reason they almost never let him talk for more that 30 seconds on live TV. I just don't see any qualities in him that will make him a legit star, however anyone could sell t-shirts to mothers and kids if the WWE told said mothers and kids that these guys are big deals. The only thing Reigns has got is his greasy looks and the ability to act like an "explosive athlete".
 
SuperTimCahill said:
People don't want him to go heel though, they want him to go away. Him being face or heel doesn't change the fact that's he's an utter clown with charisma equal to a squashed snail. There's a reason they almost never let him talk for more that 30 seconds on live TV. I just don't see any qualities in him that will make him a legit star, however anyone could sell t-shirts to mothers and kids if the WWE told said mothers and kids that these guys are big deals. The only thing Reigns has got is his greasy looks and the ability to act like an "explosive athlete".
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I don't agree with that. They went super babyface Reigns to go away. As soon as he turns heel everyone will love him.
 
SuperTimCahill said:
People don't want him to go heel though, they want him to go away. Him being face or heel doesn't change the fact that's he's an utter clown with charisma equal to a squashed snail. There's a reason they almost never let him talk for more that 30 seconds on live TV. I just don't see any qualities in him that will make him a legit star, however anyone could sell t-shirts to mothers and kids if the WWE told said mothers and kids that these guys are big deals. The only thing Reigns has got is his greasy looks and the ability to act like an "explosive athlete".
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I think that's all very very harsh to be honest.
 
I'd say what the fans booing him want is for him to be Daniel Bryan and WWE to ask them who they want to be pushed.

He's not and they didn't so decided to crap all over the guy they decided to give a traditional babyface push to, a guy who had muscles instead of a cool indy rep.

Of course he was green and pushed too hard too early, and some of the material they gave him was terrible, and sure, some fans genuinely won't like him so boo appropriatly.

But the majority of boos started because of the reasons above, and carried on because it was cool and fun to boo Roman Reigns.

Someone earlier compared him to Lex Luger in 93, if anything Lugers push was even more in your face. Back then obviously things were different so instead of beeing booed out the building Luger was met with silence or muted cheers.
 
It's got nothing to do with his lack of indy rep! Loads of none indy guys get favourable reactions.

People dislike the push because his character is lame and predictable. Roman overcomes all the odds yet they act like he is an under dog at times. Its madness.

Stuff like putting him in the Mania main event for the past 3 years when nobody really wanted him there didn't help.
 
Papa Shango said:
It's got nothing to do with his lack of indy rep! Loads of none indy guys get favourable reactions.

People dislike the push because his character is lame and predictable. Roman overcomes all the odds yet they act like he is an under dog at times. Its madness.

Stuff like putting him in the Mania main event for the past 3 years when nobody really wanted him there didn't help.
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Indeed.

If being "indie" was the be all, end all, then people like The Miz wouldn't be getting praise from everywhere for perfecting his heel act now.

People aren't stupid - they know that the likes of Owens, Samoa Joe etc. aren't big or marketable enough to be the guy. But there's got to be a balance between ability, charisma and marketability for an all-rounder to take the role that Cena has had. Because that's what Cena developed into over the years - an all-rounder. Yes, an often terribly booked all-rounder, but at the core a decent enough marketable asset.

Reigns simply isn't that. He's not going to cut explosive promos, or be effective in mainstream TV appearance or charity events. He's never going to put on five star matches. As such, his terrible booking just exacerbates the existing issues with him.

The comparison with Luger following Hogan is very apt actually. An artificial push that was met with resistance - the only difference nowadays is what that resistance consists of.
 
Jeff Hardy is the prime example of a wrestler reaching the top in the right way (imo). He worked his ass off and got over because of his own ability and charisma (and I wasn't his biggest fan, even though I do think he's good). Eventually the WWE couldn't ignore the crowd reactions he got and when he finally won the title (they teased it for a long time and had him lose to a heelish Triple H a couple of times first) the crowd went absolutely mad.

If they built people for a few years, instead of throwing world titles at them after 2 months (like Sheamus), they'd become far bigger stars. One of my favorite title wins of all-time came when Eddie beat Lesnar. The crowd absolutely loved it. Probably wouldn't happen today though, as they'd throw the title on him after a week (like Balor).

I'm 100% certain that Reigns would never reach Hardy's level on his own, he's just too bland and generic to me. He can't talk and he's mediocre (now I'm being kind) in the ring. And the way WWE is forcing him down people's throats doesn't make it better, obviously.

I'd rather see them push Big E to be honest, but that won't happen as he's black.
 
The fact that the last 3 or so pages have all been about him says enough for me.

I'm actually starting to like him again as he annoys so many others.

Anyway,

Loads of old NXT shows added to the network. Watched a really random one today. Ended with Bo Dallas vs WHC Big Show. And NXT champ Seth Rollins hit a promo with JR but got attacked by Corey Graves. Weird but gold.
 
ijjysmith said:
The fact that the last 3 or so pages have all been about him says enough for me.
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Was waiting for someone to say this.

That's not endorsement of him - the reason he gets discussion isn't because he's worthwhile; it's because he sticks out like a sore thumb at what he does.

If he was competent in the role, then people wouldn't focus such negative attention on him.

It's like someone being terrible in their job in an office environment. They'll get talked about, but that doesn't mean the attention is good.
 
Papa Shango said:
There is nothing wrong with Reigns in the ring! He very rarely has a bad match. he is pretty consistent in that regard. I think the people questioning his in ring ability are being incredibly harsh. The bloke can go.
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Yeah he's a decent solid wrestler who has a good look and decent charisma. Not top guy level no, and i understand if people don't like him but to deny those things is wrong IMO.
 
ijjysmith said:
The fact that the last 3 or so pages have all been about him says enough for me.

I'm actually starting to like him again as he annoys so many others.

Anyway,

Loads of old NXT shows added to the network. Watched a really random one today. Ended with Bo Dallas vs WHC Big Show. And NXT champ Seth Rollins hit a promo with JR but got attacked by Corey Graves. Weird but gold.
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I went that way with Baron Corbin. When he was in NXT and people were giving him loads, went to the Blackpool show and whilst everyone was having a go at him I realized that I kind of liked him.

I have all the old FCW shows on a hard drive (amongst various other things, Superstars from the 80's etc) and I love keeping my eyes open for random guys showing up before they were famous.
 

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