Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[Ruairi77]

Of course you have an identity

yea, that's kind of like when someone says they dont have an accent!

 

[coollino]

I dont have an identity mate - im a bloke who grew up in Liverpool and had a very poor upbringing - no white privilege (whats white privilege to the average northern person on universal credit in the UK for example!) Im just a human mate and feel like as soon as the slates wiped clean and people grow up and stop dividing people into categories regardless of if its in an attempt to celebrate heritage/differences etc. then things like this will keep happening because you have groups formed and tribalism grows from groupings look at football as the perfect example of that.

Regardless of you thinking like that, others will identify you as a white male as such, you will have privileges.

The policeman identifed Floyd as a black man, used excessive force and killed him. Even if Floyd didn't identify as a black man, others will.

 

[SerenityNigh]

yea, that's kind of like when someone says they dont have an accent!

I don't have an accent, but Texans and Mississipans do, and almost all yanks. And New Yorkers sound like they have chronic bronchitis. And how many vowels do Minnesotans stick in their baaaag?

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Agree with this. Could never get my head around people touting Obama vs Clinton as first black vs first female president. Why not just the best person for the job? The fact that Obama was referred to as that suggests we still have a long way to go.

Well we can find common ground on this bolded point

 

[mill]

I dont have an identity mate - im a bloke who grew up in Liverpool and had a very poor upbringing - no white privilege (whats white privilege to the average northern person on universal credit in the UK for example!) Im just a human mate and feel like as soon as the slates wiped clean and people grow up and stop dividing people into categories regardless of if its in an attempt to celebrate heritage/differences etc. then things like this will keep happening because you have groups formed and tribalism grows from groupings look at football as the perfect example of that.

The fact is you do have white privilege. You may not have had economic privilege in your eyes but as a white male in society you do have privilege that others who don’t look like you don’t.

I don’t want to move the discussion on too much because I think it’s important that we focus on racism but to ask you some questions about some of the privileges you’ve had that you might not think about.

have you ever had to reconsider what you are wearing for a night out as you feel your outfit night give the wrong impression?

have you ever had worry about being able to access a toilet when you go shopping?

have you ever had to worry about violence if you show a public display of affection with a partner?

Now imagine a black, lesbian, woman with a disability living next door to you and then consider what their experience might be and whether you’ve had privilege.

I’m just beginning to explore these things and frankly some of them are difficult and uncomfortable to realise. But that’s the way it is. Some of these truths are uncomfortable.

 

[Ruairi77]

I don't have an accent, but Texans and Mississipans do, and almost all yanks. And New Yorkers sound like they have chronic bronchitis. And how many vowels do Minnesotans stick in their baaaag?

accent free zone here!

 

[RAFUH]

Well, there's some good out of this

 

[Hickson9]

I dont have an identity mate - im a bloke who grew up in Liverpool and had a very poor upbringing - no white privilege (whats white privilege to the average northern person on universal credit in the UK for example!) Im just a human mate and feel like as soon as the slates wiped clean and people grow up and stop dividing people into categories regardless of if its in an attempt to celebrate heritage/differences etc. then things like this will keep happening because you have groups formed and tribalism grows from groupings look at football as the perfect example of that.

If you're white, you won't experience discrimination due to your skin colour.

That is white privilege. The absence of that form of discrimination.

This isn't hard to understand.

 

[Tony101]

The fact is you do have white privilege. You may not have had economic privilege in your eyes but as a white male in society you do have privilege that others who don’t look like you don’t.

I don’t want to move the discussion on too much because I think it’s important that we focus on racism but to ask you some questions about some of the privileges you’ve had that you might not think about.

have you ever had to reconsider what you are wearing for a night out as you feel your outfit night give the wrong impression?

have you ever had worry about being able to access a toilet when you go shopping?

have you ever had to worry about violence if you show a public display of affection with a partner?

Now imagine a black, lesbian, woman with a disability living next door to you and then consider what their experience might be and whether you’ve had privilege.

I’m just beginning to explore these things and frankly some of them are difficult and uncomfortable to realise. But that’s the way it is. Some of these truths are uncomfortable.

Surely a lot of what you said would apply to a white lesbian women with a disability tho.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Hey Dan, there's a Dandy Dan on 1d4chan who holds a lot of similar opinions to you such as:

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You wouldn't happen to know the guy, would you?

Nice work Prev. Toasted the little rat!

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Well, there's some good out of this

Long overdue, but what's happening now has opened the eyes of those who didn't realize/chose not to realize the injustices out there. There may now be enough support nationwide, if not a clear supermajority in the South, to get these things removed everywhere.

 

[mill]

Surely a lot of what you said would apply to a white lesbian women with a disability tho.

Yes. Sorry I’m talking about intersectionality here because we were talking about other privileges like economic privilege.

I didn’t use the questions related to race as Id posted them earlier. I’ll quote them in a second hang on.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Long overdue, but what's happening now has opened the eyes of those who didn't realize/chose not to realize the injustices out there. There may now be enough support nationwide, if not a clear supermajority in the South, to get these things removed everywhere.

You know who argued against raising statues to the confederacy?

ROBERT E. LEE!

 

[Connor]

*shows ignored content*

Realises that that racist incel gobshite has been banned

Still a few more to go yet

 

[mill]

Surely a lot of what you said would apply to a white lesbian women with a disability tho.

These were the questions I posted earlier re white privilege.

I can arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.

I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed
or harassed.

I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my
race widely represented.

When I am told about our national heritage or about civilization, I am shown that people
of my color made it what it is.

I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the
existence of their race.

I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the food I grew up with, into a hairdressers shop and find someone who can deal with my hair.

Whether I use checks, credit cards, or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial responsibility.

I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing, or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.

I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.

I can take a job or enroll in a college with an affirmative action policy without having my
co-workers or peers assume I got it because of my race.

I can choose public accommodation with out fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated

I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.

I am never asked to speak for all of the people of my racial group.

I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk with the person in charge I will be facing a person of my race.

If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I havent been singled out because of my race.

I can easily by posters, postcards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys, and childrens magazines featuring people of my race.

I can choose blemish cover or bandages in flesh color and have them more or less match my skin.

I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.

I can walk into a classroom and know I will not be the only member of my race.

I can enroll in a class at college and be sure that the majority of my professors will be of
my race.