Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[peteblue]

BLM isn't restricted to "white upon black".

Minimizing their cause in such a fashion seems to indicate your claim to not see color or frame issues by race/color - inaccurate.

Taken straight from their website….

”BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.”

 

[peteblue]

‘Foreign’ criminals who spent most of their life in the U.K. included?
You see no colour because you don’t want to. Colour is an important part of who is being deported, who is being killed, who is being stop and searched. To try and categorise those who are actively trying to improve communities and areas as the ones obsessed with race is your failing.
The use of’what about knife crime’ and ‘what about black on black murder’ is a racist trope used to invalidate legitimate concerns about state oppression, violence, and institutional racism whilst those who mention it have no desire to see any change or progress made lest they can’t keep using the same strawmen to shut down arguments.

But who is shutting down the arguments.…

 

[dead_soft]

But who is shutting down the arguments.…

Probably the guy who didn’t engage with any of the points made

 

[Death]

Whats the 'white lads feeling unreasonably threatened' level in here?

 

[dead_soft]

Whats the 'white lads feeling unreasonably threatened' level in here?

Very high today

 

[Death]

It’s very simple. It was not done by white people. If it’s done by black people it’s ignored. Most stabbings in London are done by black people, but we are not allowed to say so. Most murders in Chicago are committed by black people but again no one is allowed to say so. BLM is a nonsense, of course Black Lives Matter, as do white lives, but instead of concentrating on the perpetrators of the stabbings and murders we look at the colour of the victims……

Much of poverty and unsocial behaviour in black communities is a direct knock on effect from systematic inequality by a white racist America. They and thier ancsesters have been destined for grouped poverty and therefore live in communities with high crime. Its a systematic problem steaming from racism.

 

[tsubaki]

TBF I defy anyone to

It wasn't a racist attack so why would they?

And, of course, plenty in the BLM movement are involved within communities affected by knife crime and within organisations trying to help

TBF this issue - the senselessness of the murderer, the level of education of at least one of the suspects - does really expose a lot of what people have been on about. Yet of course when they do raise these issues, the whatabout crowd pipe up with their usual crap.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What were you saying about "all lives mattering" Pete?

 

[peteblue]

Much of poverty and unsocial behaviour in black communities is a direct knock on effect from systematic inequality by a white racist America. They and thier ancsesters have been destined for grouped poverty and therefore live in communities with high crime. Its a systematic problem steaming from racism.

I agree it’s partly systemic and certainly there are elements of racism. Poverty doesn’t distinguish between black and white though. Many of us grew up in absolute poverty, but there was little or no crime, and certainly not killings on the scale of today. Drugs have played a massive part in what we now see and will continue to do so until a solution to that particular issue is found….

 

[peteblue]

Probably the guy who didn’t engage with any of the points made

Probably because you inevitably accuse people of being racist….

 

[Death]

I agree it’s partly systemic and certainly there are elements of racism. Poverty doesn’t distinguish between black and white though. Many of us grew up in absolute poverty, but there was little or no crime, and certainly not killings on the scale of today. Drugs have played a massive part in what we now see and will continue to do so until a solution to that particular issue is found….

Lower class neighbhouds in America have high rates of crime. Yeah drugs are apart of the crime. Legalisation is the way to go on that front but that is not the core problem it's a product of the core problem.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I agree it’s partly systemic and certainly there are elements of racism. Poverty doesn’t distinguish between black and white though. Many of us grew up in absolute poverty, but there was little or no crime, and certainly not killings on the scale of today. Drugs have played a massive part in what we now see and will continue to do so until a solution to that particular issue is found….

I'll assume you grew up in the 60s Pete, in which case (and please keep in mind that roughly 15 million more people live in the UK since the 60s.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And overall crimes.

 

[LEONARD]

It’s very simple. It was not done by white people. If it’s done by black people it’s ignored. Most stabbings in London are done by black people, but we are not allowed to say so. Most murders in Chicago are committed by black people but again no one is allowed to say so. BLM is a nonsense, of course Black Lives Matter, as do white lives, but instead of concentrating on the perpetrators of the stabbings and murders we look at the colour of the victims……

If they were honest and called themselves 'Some Black Lives Matter', I could support them.

 

[peteblue]

I'll assume you grew up in the 60s Pete, in which case (and please keep in mind that roughly 15 million more people live in the UK since the 60s.

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