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Not at all, he should be locked up, but I cannot understand the stupidity from quite a few few people in potentially helping to get a retrial.....
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Not at all, he should be locked up, but I cannot understand the stupidity from quite a few few people in potentially helping to get a retrial.....
If every black man or woman had answered that question honestly that jury would have been very white especially in that district.
The actual question asked by the Judge was had he heard of George Floyd and if so what did he know. In fact the question was specific to the civil case by the family and not the criminal case he was asked to serve on the jury for.
He never said anything about attending marches or protests because he was not asked that.
His response to the judge was that he knew what most knew from reading and hearing about the case and as a black man he could be impartial.
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BBC....it was inevitable.....
”The white former Minneapolis police officer convicted last month of the murder of the black man George Floyd has requested a new trial.
Derek Chauvin's legal team have filed court documents alleging misconduct by both prosecutors and jurors.
Chauvin, who was captured on video kneeling on Mr Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes, was found guilty of murder and manslaughter.
His lawyer says his client was deprived of a fair trial.”
”The white former Minneapolis police officer convicted last month of the murder of the black man George Floyd has requested a new trial.
Derek Chauvin's legal team have filed court documents alleging misconduct by both prosecutors and jurors.
Chauvin, who was captured on video kneeling on Mr Floyd's neck for more than nine minutes, was found guilty of murder and manslaughter.
His lawyer says his client was deprived of a fair trial.”
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Lying in court prejudices the whole proceedings. A retrial is necessary for the validity of the system.
It was pre trial the question was asked and the question was about the civil lawsuit so his answer was accurate. The judge asked if any jury knew about the George Floyd civil case.
The defense had still a chance to bounce him and anyone else they looked into and felt would be prejudicial.
The defense attorney and associates have not questioned this and there's no word if they will. They have argued a mistrial should be called based on other issues but not this. Mainly that the jury was not sequestered and it could have left to bias due to the media reports etc...
As I said too Pete question never pertained to his social activities as that was not asked. The civil case against the city was first before the cop was arrested. The defense argued that the jury might be swayed by it. So the judge asked each juror about it.
The defense still had the opportunity to do their own work and background checks on the jury pool.
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You take an oath in court not to lie. The court takes people at their word, and now this guy has been found to have lied. You cannot have a juror who has a predetermined opinion of a case before hearing the facts!
Let me say it again. It was before he was sworn in as juror. As in jury selection.
They could have bounced him. Both sides have the ability to research the jury pool.
Do you know how this was found out?
Someone on the internet watching tbe case googled his name. The defense could have fact checked this. They didn't.
If there was a legit issue here we would have heard from the Judge and the prosecutor. Also most certainly that mouthy defense attorney who had filed several different writhe to have the decision overturned.
I'm not sure if you are a lawyer or just throwing out stuff you have seen and know about court but the facts are the facts.
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It is not up to the defense to check whether a potential juror is being honest in court. You take people at their word.
You will hear from a judge and prosecutor when the appeal goes to court.
Hmm... he didn't lie. The question was if he knew anything about Floyd's family's civil case. He responded only what he saw on TV and in the press. End of. That isn't a lie now is it. It's debatable but not a lie. He said it in good faith. His history at rallies is irrelevant.
For the record both sides can choose and object to jury members. They have challenges. It may differ in the UK but here there is a jury pool and it is whittled down.
The judge addressed the potential jury before they were sworn in. Both sides had an opportunity to object and have an alternate. In all high-profile cases they do checks on potential jurors.
I don't know why you are being obtuse by repeating the same nonsense (which is inaccurate by the way).
Listen I'm not going to repeat myself for a fifth time simply because you wish to repeat the same nonsense the racist guy did on Facebook about the juror. Because he attended a rally has nothing to do with the question asked.
If it did that defense attorney who has submitted multiple challenges would have thrown that on top. Up until now he hasn't.
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Nowhere. If he gets a retrial it will just end up with the same outcome
George Floyd didn’t because Chauvin, against his police training, put his knee on Floyd’s neck for 9 minutes.
Im not disputing that I’m simply saying it was obvious he didn’t get a fair trial.
Why do you not think he had a fair trial?
Chauvin was released pre-trial on bond so he was able to go onto state his case at trial without having opt for a plea bargain to escape pretrial prison conditions
The Fight Over Derek Chauvin’s $1 Million Bail Shows the System Is Irrational and Broken
The ex-cop charged with killing George Floyd should be allowed to await his trial in safety. That should be the standard for everybody.
reason.com
He had two experienced and professional private lawyers who could concentrate on his case rather than relying on overworked public defenders juggling multiple cases or worse
The judge not only set aside three weeks for voir dire but allowed detailed questionnaires (not always used as I understand it), a greater than usual jury pool
and also gave far more leeway in striking jurors
EXPLAINER: Striking jurors in ex-cop's trial in Floyd death
As attorneys in the trial of a former Minneapolis police officer charged in George Floyd's death screen potential jurors, they're on guard for anything that suggests jurors would help, or hurt, their side.
apnews.com
Compared to your average jury this one was vetted far more rigorously, that probably applies to the evidence presented as well.
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