you would think america would have done something about their stupid gun laws by now
Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest
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Still no justification for shooting him.
Before I start, I'm in no way condoning the shooting and hopefully it is thoroughly investigated and impartially investigated by the relevant authorities.
The video is out there on Twitter if people want to look and for me it shows that he is resisting arrest and breaks free from the restraints with an officer's taser.
Yet, it is difficult to distinguish whether he has aimed or used the taser towards an officer; you can see an officer deploy their taser which appears unsuccessful.
Now, from what I could see it is difficult to distinguish because it's out of view of the video whether the first office (making chase) uses his side arm or the second.
It is therefore also pure speculation with regards to why the officer opened fire: was there justifiable risk* or has he wrongly gunned him down as he fled.
Until all that is answered, it's nigh on impossible to discuss whether race played any part in the shooting because its legality has yet to be decided.
*This comes back to whether he's used the taser before and what happens off camera.
A taser would temporarily paralyse the cop and the criminal could easily disarm the cop. The cop had the right to defend himself here.
No he didn't just run away. He aimed a taser right at the cop's face. Get the facts right.
They could just have let him run away. They had his car so could easily track him down.
He ran away, turned back, shot the tazer, carried on running, got shot in the back.
It's right there in the video you weirdo.
When a taser is targeted the cops, the cops had to act at the spur of the moment. A split second decision. Once a taser is shot at the cops, they can easily be disarmed. You mention about the second cop, but this suspect already overpowered both cops and stole one of their tasers.
No, I get the "why do they aim at center mass" completely. I'm just advocating that maybe they SHOULD have those thousands of hours before being deployed on the streets with a deadly weapon and a fear that everyone who gets away will kill everyone they love so they ought to kill them.
From the video all I have seen is the guy resisting for what ever reason. Takes the cops taser, run off before turning and firing it at the officer.
I’m pretty sure the officer used his taser on the fella which has no effect.
I’d imagine if we didn’t have the George Floyd incident there would not be as much scrutiny on this.
I suppose you could argue the fella was running away, albeit with the cops taser, but if he’s running away I’d say the threat towards the cop is lowered.
I’m pretty sure the officer used his taser on the fella which has no effect.
I’d imagine if we didn’t have the George Floyd incident there would not be as much scrutiny on this.
I suppose you could argue the fella was running away, albeit with the cops taser, but if he’s running away I’d say the threat towards the cop is lowered.
I agree with the sentiment but it’s the practicalities of: it would need constant training so repeated practice week on week, year on year.
That’s simply not practical in terms of their roles and responsibilities because in reality it would take much of their time away from being on the street.
In reality, the bigger issue within the US is the readiness and willingness to draw their firearm rather than the practicalities of how they use it.
I’d be asking those officers to justify the need to draw their firearm in that situation. The standard for this should be high! But then US gun culture...
You put it more eloquently than I, agree completely.
The guy was running away from the policemen. He had fired the taser. The policemen were not in any immediate danger. If in that split second the policeman's decision was to shoot then he has shown himself to be completely unsuited to being a policeman.
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Exactly. Deserted car park in the night and two coppers kneeling on your body. The feller panicked and ran for his life. His only mistake was to turn and point the taser at the coppers.
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