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First, women whose lives are in danger or have been raped should without question have access to abortion. As much as I may have trouble with the idea of ending a part of life, I don't see how those women can be held without choice for those circumstances. No one wins in the matter of choosing between mother and baby, and a raped woman certainly didn't choose to become pregnant so why hold them responsible?
Here is the problem w/ this.

You get to go to rape court, you get the good fortune to relive your rape again (notably after, if you even bothered to go to them, got your rape dismissed by cops and probably called a slut) where you have to prove that you were significantly raped enough to have an abortion. If you are lucky you'll get a reasonable judge, but you won't because these will be the same people who were appointed by the !@#holes who are against any and all abortions. and then you'll get called a slut.
 
Oh, I don't subscribe to the middle being squeezed by the left and right in equal sense. Not at all.

The left is not on a mission to outlaw religion or force people to marry someone of the same sex or have an abortion. The political right, on the other hand, is on a mission to impose their view of morality via the law.

They are a minority of the electorate but, effectively, have maneuvered to take advantage of the quirks in the system to have outsized control.
Nice manipulation of what I said. I am saying the extremes are becoming more popular.
 
So, I've not had a strong leaning one way or the other on abortion. As a woman, I'm curious what's your take on a question that's always been on my mind that's central to how I think I'd lean.

First, women whose lives are in danger or have been raped should without question have access to abortion. As much as I may have trouble with the idea of ending a part of life, I don't see how those women can be held without choice for those circumstances. No one wins in the matter of choosing between mother and baby, and a raped woman certainly didn't choose to become pregnant so why hold them responsible?

Leading to my main question, when does the decision to reproduce come? Reproductive rights gets thrown around as a hot button phrase, but since when does the right to reproduce begin/end after conception and not at/before the moment of conception?
At my age getting pregnant is not really an issue that concerns me directly so my anger is not for myself but for the many women that will not have the right to make a choice over their bodies, women like my daughter who are now being subjected to a decision that shouldn't be happening this time in age. People in the past have already fought this social right and won it, and now it is being taken away from us again while the Supreme Court gives other citizens in our country other rights.

The question of when life begins is an eternal one, debated by philosophers and theologians for centuries, and likely destined to forever elude consensus. However, on the separate but closely related question of when a woman is considered pregnant, the medical community has long been clear: Pregnancy is established when a fertilized egg has been implanted in the wall of a woman's uterus. The definition is critical to distinguishing between a contraceptive that prevents pregnancy and an abortifacient that terminates it. And on this point, federal policy has long been both consistent and in accord with the scientists: Drugs and devices that act before implantation prevent, rather than terminate, pregnancy. At the state level, however, definitions of pregnancy—generally, as part of larger measures enacted to regulate abortion—vary widely and now with this ruling some states will be able to regulate abortion in a way that could be a detrimental to a woman's health and even risk their life.
 
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At my age getting pregnant is not really an issue that concerns me directly so my anger is not for myself but for the many women that will not have the right to make a choice over their bodies, women like my daughter who are now being subjected to a decision that shouldn't be happening this time in age. People in the past have already fought this social right and won it, and now it is being taken away from us again while the Supreme Court gives other citizens in our country other rights.

The question of when life begins is an eternal one, debated by philosophers and theologians for centuries, and likely destined to forever elude consensus. However, on the separate but closely related question of when a woman is considered pregnant, the medical community has long been clear: Pregnancy is established when a fertilized egg has been implanted in the wall of a woman's uterus. The definition is critical to distinguishing between a contraceptive that prevents pregnancy and an abortifacient that terminates it. And on this point, federal policy has long been both consistent and in accord with the scientists: Drugs and devices that act before implantation prevent, rather than terminate, pregnancy. At the state level, however, definitions of pregnancy—generally, as part of larger measures enacted to regulate abortion—vary widely and now with this ruling some states will be able to regulate abortion in a way that could be a detrimental to a woman's health and even risk their own life.
Understand all that, but I am asking when does the right to "choose" whether or not to reproduce happen? Isn't that the crux of pro-choice? I'm unable to compartmentalize like in popular arguments like "my body, my choice" what has been every living person at some point in a womb to a talking point. Now, I actually could not care less what personal choices people make. In this case are we not talking about life itself and trying to do every thing we can to protect this the most unique part of our existence?

Then again, a woman makes a mistake or is manipulated and forevermore has to live with the reality of raising a child she didn't plan for or is unprepared to raise. What quality of life is that for her or her child? Again again, should the interference in a natural process of life be a proverbial get out of jail free card?

Problems like this just make me miserable in trying to find a right answer.
 
Sorry I more meant, how are those people elected?
They aren't elected, they are appointed by the president and get a lifetime role. Trump appointed 3 Christian fanatics that are forcing their religion on everyone else and obliterating the line between church and state. It's abhorrent.

Also the argument from anti-abortionists lacks any form of logic. They say it's all about protecting children then continously oppose measures to help children after they're born whether it be paid parental leave, school lunch programs, gun laws, etc. It's all religious grandstanding.
 
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