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ChesterBlue said:
It’s absolutely disgraceful. That judge also needs to be replaced as his conduct has been ridiculous
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What’s even more disgraceful is the glee so many Republicans are getting watching this play out. They’re vicariously living their fantasies of some day getting own the libs by actually murdering them in public to the extent that he’s being heralded as a “hero” in a lot of circles.
 
BlueTX said:
I watched despite my reservations about Dan Crenshaw. He performed as expected, coming across as eminently reasonable while misconstruing facts or outright lying knowing he wasn't likely to be challenged (witness Trevor Noah repeatedly saying "right" to Crenshaw's comments - regardless whether they are factual or not).

1.5 million border encounters. Bus tickets anywhere!! Yet Rep. Crenshaw doesn't say that 70%+ of those encounters resulted in immediate or quick deportation across the border. 1.5 million is a far greater number and gets people's attention.

Republicans are always "willing to discuss DACA or Dreamers" but only if the border is "secured". That's not a willingness to discuss. Far from it. It's an undefined slogan used to stifle conversation - and it dates back decades to when a Republican POTUS (George W. Bush) wanted to honestly address immigration but was shut down by the far right of his own Party. There are loads and loads of conservative businesspeople in Texas, for instance, who would love to have comprehensive immigration reform because it would help them with labor supply. But it doesn't happen because it's a huge fundraising issue and whips up nativist and scared white people to vote.

Yes, Dan, Texas made it illegal to teach something (CRT) that wasn't being taught in public schools anywhere in the state. But "increased teaching about slavery and Jim Crow laws"? Rep. Crenshaw doesn't say that until 2019, slavery was NOT taught in Texas public schools as the primary cause of the Civil War. Yes, that's right - 2019!! "Sectionalism" and State's Rights (to do what?) were taught as the primary causes. Jim Crow? Not even mentioned in high school textbooks since conservative zealots took over the State Board of Education in 2010. They literally WHITEwashed the history.

As an aside, Dan claims he learned about slavery "ad nauseum" when he was in school. That's odd because he went to school in Katy, TX (that's where he says he "grew up" while also saying his family moved all over) where slavery wasn't part of the curriculum and he spent 4 years and graduated high school in Colombia. It's not real likely American slave history was a big part of the curriculum in Colombia (@Sassy Colombian, wanna weigh in here?). Certainly not enough where he learned about it "ad nauseum".

At least twice Crenshaw acknowledged Noah's point and said an honest conversation could be had about the point... "BUT" and went back to his bogus talking point. In one case he made the comment he didn't understand why "the left" defends CRT because it "seeks to challenge the liberal order". Yo, Dan, "liberal order" isn't necessarily "of the left" and I'm not aware "the left" defends teaching CRT in elementary or secondary schools. That said, the bigger point is Critical Race Theory ISN'T being taught in the public schools of Texas or anywhere else. No school system in the US is telling white schoolchildren that they are "evil", Dan, nor are they teaching non-white students they are permanent "victims". You claim you aren't afraid of "the conversation" but your words regarding the matter suggest that you are given they are directly from the straw/bogeyman created by the political right to scare white people and get their votes.

When Trevor says he believes Dan's views on climate have changed from when he said, (rough quotes here) 1. climate change had nothing to do with Hurricane Harvey 2. the Earth hasn't warmed and 3. the science isn't settled on Climate change - Dan denied saying these things. He said all of them. See here, starting at roughly 4 minutes: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=632055277187223.

Dan Crenshaw is a smart guy. He's also a very, very dangerous guy. Why? Because he tells you he is interested in having "discussion" about matters that are of importance to all, not just the right or left, but there is literally zero evidence of it. He says it over and over but then creates strawmen or mischaracterizes the view of "the other" so as to make it appear as though "they" are unreasonable - all while getting a comedian like Trevor Noah to nod his head (no disrespect to Trevor but he's not a policy wonk).

Crenshaw is, in my experience and many others I know who have worked with him, an ideologue with serious political ambition (and has a nasty mean streak, btw). I don't find him an honest broker. He's political scum.
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Sorry @BlueTX I been having a busy week and totally missed this post. I just finished watching the segment and I couldn’t agree more with everything you posted here. Crenshaw like many Republicans try to sound reasonable but as we already now they are far from it. It was actually disappointing how little Trevor challenged his views during the interview. Dan is indeed a smart politician that is very good with words but like many politicians he as dishonest as they get. His claims that he learned about slavery when he was in school definitely didn’t happen in Colombia, a country with the second largest population of Afrodescendants in Latin America but a population that has been historically excluded and marginalized primarily due to the legacy of slavery deeply embedded within contemporary social and economic structures. Thus in Colombia they don’t teach about our own slavery history so even less about the history of US slavery.
 
BlueTX said:
Crenshaw is, in my experience and many others I know who have worked with him, an ideologue with serious political ambition (and has a nasty mean streak, btw). I don't find him an honest broker. He's political scum.
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Great insights. Thanks
All I can add is that I've know a few SEALs, met many more...generally speaking they are nutcases with a mean streak.
 
LinekersLegs said:
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I have been keeping up with this news as NC is my home state and it seems Republicans here didn’t learn the lesson from the judicial system when their precious maps were thrown out because of gerrymandering. So once again they are
are facing another set of legal complaints that will likely determine how much Republicans can expand their political clout over the coming decade in a state that has slowly become more blue but that Republicans are determined to keep red as long as they can :(
 
LostLegend said:
Along with the fake crying and all this nonsense:



He's going to get away with this at this absolute farce of a trial and it's going to absolutely kick off again over there isn't it? :mad:
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I don’t know what to degree it’s going to kick off, but it’s certainly going to embolden gun toting maniacs who have long fantasized about the opportunity to take the law (as they define it) into their own hands.
 
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