Game Of Thrones: Season 8

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Jon was never going to be King

No he didn't want it, but once he saw what a bitch his queen turned out to be he knew it was his duty to save the people from her and kill her and take the throne himself.

That's how it should have gone.

 

[Thomasc]

 

[Wizard]

yeah, they shed a bit of a tear, but john was making blubbering sounds when tirion was speaking to him (no tears though). It just seemed like there was more crying in this series than the rest of the series' put together.

I suspected as much about the weather, just thought it was supposed to be a winter that was supposed to last years. it only last a few weeks.

I think this is the first time the stakes are so high for him hence his emotion. When it was the Night King it was a no brainer, there are no allegiances there. It’s kill or be killed.

Once he’s seen Dany go full Mad Queen it suddenly becomes a choice as it’s her vs Westeros v Sansa and Arya and also vs his own morals. It’s also someone he has fallen in love with (again way too quickly fair enough) and so he for once has a choice that isn’t just based on right or wrong, it’s based on emotion. And he reacts the way you would expect him to

 

[TraffordBlue]

Considering how much the previous 2 episodes disappointed me, I actually quite enjoyed that tbh.

Same here, although I've been disappointed with the whole season.

There were some daft moments again this episode but it felt a lot more like the GOT i'd been watching in previous seasons. If Jon Snow had stabbed Jaime Lannister in any episodes like he stabbed Danerys, Jamie would have got back up and ran off.

Can't believe how many times they kept him alive "for the fans".

This episode they didn't bow down to the TV fan audience. Danerys finished off, Golden Boy Jon Snow banished to the wall.

After what they served up in the previous 5 episodes I didn't mind the way they ended that.

 

[Wizard]

No he didn't want it, but once he saw what a bitch his queen turned out to be he knew it was his duty to save the people from her and kill her and take the throne himself.

That's how it should have gone.

I don’t agree with the final bit. Jon’s character has always been “stop the threat and then let someone more experienced rule”. He’s never wanted to lead at any point.

 

[Dom1878]

Just talking about how this season should have gone with a few friends...

Ayra goes to stab Knight King, gets beheaded. Knight King kills Brann, and all the Starks. He then descends on Kings Landing, the dragon dies thanks to the Scorpions, and a massive battle ensues. It ends with the Knight King sitting on the throne.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

His journey was never about being king in my opinion. It was about stopping bad people from being in power but never then wanting power himself. He basically wanted a peaceful life which is why he took the Black in the first place. To help defend people but not having to get involved in the rubbish that comes with it. By being in the Nights Watch he realised the bigger threat at hand. But none of his moves were ever power based. So even when he realises he’s the true heir to the throne he doesn’t want to go near it. I think his ending is exactly right, going to live north of the wall with Tormund etc

He was already a great leader of men, then once it turns out he's the rightful heir to the throne, then he had to take the throne seeing what a bitch Daenerys turned out to be, inflicting genocide on kings landing and planning more war.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Meh, it was let down overall this final season. Got to fear for any spin off, the depth just not there without Martin attention.

The obituary in the book was the nearest it came to source material...

 

[TraffordBlue]

tbh the Dany "transformation" is the one bit of season 8 that does make sense - shes been like this for ages, including after Drogo's death:

There was a reason she burned that woman though wasn't there...can't even remember what happened but you can tell from the dialogue that Danerys had motive for killing her.

Hardly the same as going round burning innocent women and children in Kings Landing which she'd said all along that she was trying to rid the world of - the innocent suffering at the hands of tyrants.

 

[toffeejack]

it's like the writers totally forgot that arya was the many face god, they could have at least done something great with that at least once in the final series. Then at the end, did she really have a whole ship just to go on a jolly and search for land that may never exist? Who authorised that?

Did brann stop being the 3 eyed raven and a warg after the knight king had gone? Bronn just disappeared near the end of the season and showed up near the end, gilly must have had a wedding to go to in real-life instead of shooting the final scene, why didn't they kill her off if she wasn't even going to be there? Would have been a nice sad ending with her being pregnant (cersei being pregnant had no baring on anything btw, suppose it made us second guess whether she'd surrender).

The final episode pod (had to get him into the episode just to wheel brann out because he can't get a wheelchair he can control himself) and brianne have lovely shiny new armour, sansa gets a lovely new outfit and stark branded chair, whilst arya (with a stark branded ship). It all seemed a bit of a waste of expenses on new costumes for just one shoot, especially when there's just been massive wars with massive expenditures and fatalities. Don't people usually re-build after wars instead of go out and buy loads of new shiny things?

 

[DanEFC92]

I felt absolutely nothing.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[toffeejack]

Spoiler

would have liked to have seen the main character of the whole show get an actual burial of some kind when she died, instead of being whisked away to (well we don't know), in a foot.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Deckard2049]

Almost as many unanswered questions as Lost. I think this is a problem that emerges when historical fiction meets fantasy- it’s clear the longer the show went on that the writers didn’t know what to do with that side of the show’s mythos. What was Bran’s actual purpose? What about the white walkers? Who are the faceless men? What about the lord of light and the red priestesses? Why exactly was Jon Snow resurrected? Despite people saying that fairytale endings are unrealistic (nobody wanted that), this is a show where characters are literally brought back from the dead. I think the audience is owed a little bit of insight into that.

I know the argument is that not everything needs a definitive answer, but when you analyse the show as a whole it really is clear that in regards to the fantasy of game of thrones, they didn’t have a clue.

Also the way they handled Dany in this episode, one of the key main characters since day 1, was nothing short of a disgrace and a display of contempt for the audience. All the evidence you need for them rushing through this season was there to see in how her story concluded. You didn’t have any time to take that all in. The show just kept moving at break neck speed. There was no sense of gravitas at all.

Man I really need to get a life as this has hit me hard for some reason. I’ll just say that I was never a massive fan at the time, it was always an 8/10 for me, but my respect for breaking bad has tripled today. Also the shield is a criminally underrated show which also ended amazingly. They are true television greats.