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I don’t really know what the bit in bold means. Social media is a place where you can find an extreme view of anything, anything at all - but most people aren’t at those extremes, and they detract from any serious discussion.

He's referring to the phenomenon that social media companies tend more to ban conservative voices over liberal voices, this affects the political-flora, making the platform lean more Left. If banning-practices were more evenly distributed, then the balance would be more equal.

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Conservatives are running out of social media options. Is it a violation of their free speech rights?
 
If it's exactly what I've been saying, then show me the quotes where I said those things.

Just one example of your OTT-reading: "anybody in their teens should get a pass for racist/sexist comments they make"

My actual post: "They shouldn't be punished at all for mere stupid nasty jokes made a decade ago. They should be admonished and they should prove they understand such comments are unacceptable now. That's it."

That's not the same as a pass, is it? And you also didn't take into account the decade-ago factor.

i.e. you are transforming my opinions into an extreme caricature, to make your opposition to them more palatable, as otherwise your opposition to them makes little sense. You are in effect debating yourself, not me.
when you're back from swinging i'm interested in how you think Trump would have, in time, caused millions of deaths?

He pushed the vaccine development, so those deaths wouldn't have come from Covid.

He was relatively anti-war, even going on record criticising the war-hungry Military Industrial Complex, and firing hawk John Bolton. So unlikely he would've caused millions of deaths by senseless war.

The economy was doing well, with decent job figures for all, including the poverty-class. So unlikely there'd have been a starvation crisis.

How do you think he would've caused similar damage as Stalin/Mao had he won another 4 years?
Here are your comments claiming Trump pushed the vaccine development, which is nonsense. He suggested injecting bleach or sunshine, and claimed the pandemic would be over by Easter (2020). You also claimed he was responsible for a strong economy. The reality is that he took over a strong economy built by the Obama administration, and, thanks to his chronic mismanagement of the pandemic, he managed to completely destroy. I agree with you that he was anti-war though - but that's not surprising seeing as he dodged the draft.

I'm actually at work at the moment on night shift, so don't have the time to scroll through three days' worth of your word salads to find all the other things you've said. But you know exactly what you've written anyway.
 
I am. I didn't mention any other specific case.

Wider to that, I'm also discussing possible repercussions of the cancel culture we see today.

Road to fascism? What do you think, soft lad?
Only a minute ago you were decrying ad hominem attacks and telling us how you're above such things.

You are all over the place mate lol lol lol
 
He wasn't that anti war. He trebled the amount of drone strikes under Obamas administration and then overturned an Obama era ruling that said that the US government had to report the number of civilian casualties from drone strikes outside of war zones.
 
He's referring to the phenomenon that social media companies tend more to ban conservative voices over liberal voices, this affects the political-flora, making the platform lean more Left. If banning-practices were more evenly distributed, then the balance would be more equal.

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Conservatives are running out of social media options. Is it a violation of their free speech rights?
I really don't think he is saying that but there ya go.

They tend to ban more people who agitate for violence or promote damaging lies. If they tend to be more right-wing, then maybe the issue isn't with the left or the liberals.
 
If you posted it right now is the key. What about if you posted it 10 years ago, and today you are a much more mature fair bloke, but then your company catches wind of it and suspends you (rather than simply talks to you about it to see if you still hold those views).

Fair, or no? Potential road to fascism? History tells us Mao/Stalin-eras held their people to similar degrees of purity. If a comrade wrote anything against the doctrine of that time, even if it was a decade ago, he would be punished.

Which is why I said it’s a question about the severity of what was done/said, and the statute of limitations on it.

All you’re really arguing here is that racist, sexist, homophobic posts online have an expiration date, and after that we should ask “Are you still a racist now?”, if they say ‘No’, we can move on.

that may be fair enough, but I’d prefer my kids to be much more cautious online about which sh!tty opinions they choose to post.

If I was recruiting for a job in a homeless shelter, and trawled through the candidates social media account, and found that one used to hold an ‘Eat the Homeless’ position. Whether it was 10 minutes ago or 10 years ago, it’s unlikely that candidate would get the job, as there’s 99 other candidates who didn’t hold that view at any time.
 
well then, that's sorted that one out lol

Well your claim is that right wingers are being silenced. But I see plenty of right wing voices, media, podcasts which are hugely popular and freely available. I can tell from your posts that you digest quite a few of them, cos I’m familiar with the talking points, so they’re not that silenced that you or I can’t get to hear them.
 
He wasn't that anti war. He trebled the amount of drone strikes under Obamas administration and then overturned an Obama era ruling that said that the US government had to report the number of civilian casualties from drone strikes outside of war zones.
Obama personally ordered more than 500 drone strikes, killing thousands. Trump barely ordered any. He did cede authority to CIA/military to authorise the strikes, which frankly is the coward's way out of accountability (a cowardice shown again during his round of pardons...what with no Assange among them). But any neutral reading of Obama vs Trump will have to judge Trump as, on balance, a more anti-war President. Arguably the most anti-war President since Jimmy Carter.
 
No. Because for one I didn't "scream". And for another the damage to his reputation has already been done. He should not have been suspended in the first place.


No, it's not. Normal due process is to investigate. It's not to suspend-first-ask-questions-later.



A caricaturist's reading of what I, and others, have said. It appeals to your emotion, and to those clicking like. But it's intellectually-dishonest, and merely puts a brick-wall between you and your debate-opponent.

You’ve mentioned cancel culture about twenty times. You’re screaming it from the rooftops via the internet.

Suspension pending an investigation is normal process, especially in sport.

I don’t agree with the suspension myself, but if the ECB feel there is a need for proper investigation and a pending suspension then I’m not going to rally against it.

Thing is, cancel culture does not exist like you and everyone else thinks it does.

As a society we are a lot more liberal and progressive, meaning there’s a lack of tolerance now for a certain set of views and actions. That’s a good thing, and for the most part we get the balance right as a society.

You’re coming across like you’re the enlightened one, yet it seems to me like you’re just parroting alt right media speak.

The lad said some horrific things on a public platform and is now facing the consequences. Nothing wrong in that.
 
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