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Weight and Jenas pair of turds toeing the party line.

Pair of absolute bellends.
Just listening to these whoppers on MotD. Not even interested in getting a debate going over the VAR decision - still smarting over their darlings being put to the sword yesterday.
Need to get their tongue out of the Mancs arse. They were gash second half.


That right there is exactly why United and Liverpool get big decisions and other clubs don't.... The media never criticise big decisions that go for the big boys... If that had been down the other end, that whole debate would have been much different and much longer...
Giving a decision against big clubs is bad for your career (because of the media) and every ref knows it... And that's where the bias comes from...
 
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I wish I could’ve heard what Ancelotti told that [Poor language removed] of a referee! It must have stung for that petty prick to give him a red card.
anyway it was a legitimate goal. The offside rule is obstructing the play or being part of it...after the deviation by Maddison all bets should have been off! What wanks!:rant:
 

I'd love Moss to come out and explain the difference between the two? Here is the play in question (5:40):



Had Lovren did not attempt to try to kick the ball and let the ball roll to the feet of Harry Kane instead, it would have been ruled out for offside. The difference in this position above is that Harry Kane doesn't interfere with Lovren's defensive play. Kane is in offside position only after he makes a contact with the ball but he caught "the reverse pass" or misdirected pass from Lovren's intentional attempt to kick the ball away. In contrast, the ball has deflected from Maguire to Sigurdsson, who should have not moved at all. He did it because he knew he would block the ball. See this game between FC Koln vs Schalke @0:15.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIBg74b1IM
 
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Had Lovren did not attempt to try to kick the ball and let the ball roll to the feet of Harry Kane instead, it would have been ruled out for offside. The difference in this position above is that Harry Kane doesn't interfere with Lovren's defensive play. Kane is in offside position only after he makes a contact with the ball but he caught "the reverse pass" or misdirected pass from Lovren's intentional attempt to kick the ball away. In contrast, the ball has deflected from Maguire to Sigurdsson, who should have not moved at all. He did it because he knew he would block the ball. See this game between FC Koln vs Schalke @0:15.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIBg74b1IM
I believe his moving out of the way is actually expected if your not to be considered part of the play. The var took it away, at least from the gesture of players) because they considered Gylfs mere presence obstruction [of view]. That certainty comes from the referees reaction when DeGea points to his eyes. Unfortunately a “natural” or “without malice” obstruction of view does not fall into the rules (and especially since Gylf is dropped there by the opponents). It was a valid goal as far as I’m concerned.
 

Even Steve Nicol says it should have been a goal. How pathetic that call really is when someone who is extremely biased can see it for what it was.

What happened to VAR requiring a clear and obvious error to overturn? That’s right, different rules for the Uniteds of the world.
 
He’s literally sat in front of De Gea and has to pull his foot out of the way to stop it hitting him. It has to be offside by the letter of the law
By the letter of the law it's a goal. Sitting on the ground didn't affect De Gea's line of sight. He saw Bernard's kick leave his boot and reacted to it by moving
to right where the ball was going. He saw the ball deflected and tried to change direction to the left where the ball was now going. So, no issue with line of
sight. Sigurdsson deliberately avoided contact with the ball as he'd have been offside if it had gone in after contact. The fact that he was sitting on the ground
has nothing to do with it. Players on their feet in that situation deliberately choose not to touch the ball and that often means moving out of the way.
Var got it wrong again and the referee probably has to take some blame, too.
 
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