Everton v Espanyol

[dholliday]

there are far more teams fighting for the best of the rest, and anybody can beat anybody on their day.

sounds like The Championship

 

[dholliday]

even the best managers in the world would have been unlikely to do better than Keoman at Southmaption without significant amounts of money. Most of the big name managers do well because they have 'tons of money' and good tactics, and instill good discipline.

Koeman was successful with hardly any resources and his key players being sold. Give him money on top, which hopefully we will, and he should flourish.

let's hope you're onto something, brother

 

[Brennan]

Moyes got us regular top 7, there's really no other way of saying it. One blip in 2003/04, an 11th place also early on and an 8th somewhere...otherwise it was top 7 for the other eight seasons...a fair few 5ths and one 4th. We were the best-of-the-rest for that long period. It was a nice status to have, in the absence of trophies.

And the league is weaker now than it was then: breaking into the fabled Big 4 was near-impossible, those clubs were also dominating Europe. Now the big clubs have weakened given the chasing pack a chance. More competitive is one way to describe it...weaker is another.

Nope.

The league is stronger, the top teams are not as dominant. Teams like West Ham, Southampton, and City have all moved from being either in lower leagues or being perennial mid table or below sides, to challenging for the top 8. That has clearly made it more of a challenge for a team like Southampton to get in the top 7 or 8, especially with their wage structure.

 

[whiteshadow]

let's hope you're onto something, brother

Fingers crossed. lol

 

[bazzer25]

sounds like The Championship

If you quote me don't edit my post

 

[dholliday]

Nope.

The league is stronger, the top teams are not as dominant. Teams like Spurs, West Ham, Southampton, and City have all moved from being either in lower leagues or being perennial mid table or below sides, to challenging for the top 8. That has clearly made it more of a challenge for a team like Southampton to get in the top 7 or 8, especially with their wage structure.

Nope that English clubs dominated Europe back then or nope that the Big Clubs have weakened?

 

[dholliday]

If you quote me don't edit my post

eh? i didn't. what edit have you noticed?

 

[bazzer25]

eh? i didn't. what edit have you noticed?

Weaker? Don't agree at all, there are far more teams fighting for the best of the rest, and anybody can beat anybody on their day.

 

[Brennan]

Nope that English clubs dominated Europe back then or nope that the Big Clubs have weakened?

Nope to you saying the league is weaker.

 

[dholliday]

you wot mate? nah mate. bollocks.

that's not editing that's cutting for brevity.

 

[bazzer25]

that's not editing that's cutting for brevity.

No that's editing to misquote somebody and try to pfove your weak point. Don't appreciate it. Thanks

 

[dholliday]

Nope to you saying the league is weaker.

so if you agree with the rest of my argument, it makes it tricky to still say the league is stronger now than it was during Moyes's era. Surely performance in Europe is the most effective yardstick?

 

[dholliday]

No that's editing to misquote somebody and try to pfove your weak point. Don't appreciate it. Thanks

*prove

 

[BlueToff]

That will be depressing, If Barry plays week in week out. I just think we need better than someone who sits there and play 5/10 yard passes. He's to slow for what's required at the top end of the prem these days.
I can see Ali destroying him
Next week

You fail to see how good a player Barry is mate if all you think he does is give 10 yard passes, but whatever.

I'm not saying he should be a guaranteed starter btw, and we do definitely need another midfielder in.

 

[bazzer25]

*prove

I don't need to you do, as you made the initial argument.