Match Thread Everton 1-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers 19:30 Weds 7th January 2026.

[NathDogg]

If Moyes, the players and the owners cba, then I don’t think I can anymore.

Massive chance to kick on, Europe was a real possibility this season due to the poor premier league, and we completely crap the bed.

Negative team selection & crap use of the squad and subs by the manager, players totally not giving a toss bar a couple of the younger members of the squad, and supposedly experienced pros losing their heads and not being professional enough doing their jobs.

McNeil should not be on the field or used off the bench, he’s completely garbage; one of Keane or Tarks should have been dropped after the Brentford shitshow so JOB could move centrally; subs should have came well before they did - so reactive from Moyes, even though we could all see the game was heading away from us; the subs when they came were crap.

Jordan Pickford basically won us a point last night, against the worst team the PL has seen for many a year.

I don’t want to hear about players missing due to afcon or injury, every team is affected by those things.

We will improve when these players come back of course, but that’s more in spite of the manager than because of him.

I can recognise the good job Moyes has done in stabilising and improving us since returning, but it’s getting harder & harder to forgive his awful handling of the new signings, particularly the younger lads, the shocking negative cowardly team selections, especially at home and the awful tactics and chronic sub use, game by game - he’s been out coached by throw in merchant Keith Andrews and Rob fecking Edwards the last two matches - it’s just not good enough.

I’ll be there on sat, but have zero confidence in getting a result.

 

[sbbefc]

A lot mentioned about him slowing the play down but I think every time Mykolenko went outside him he didn’t take the option of the pass because of the end product.

Exactly, I disagree with the Grealish critisim. Sure he's not a speedy winger but he always looks to make a positive forward pass. He is one of the few genuine quality players we've had for years now. There's not much movement in front of him. Mykolenko offers nothing going forward (Tony Hibbert offered more and he wasnt known for being an attacking minded player). There's not much from our attacking midfielders or Barry either.

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

That's the FA Cup gone for another season without us kicking the ball, just to start on a realistic note.

Terrible team selection and tactics so that debacle last night was all down to the manager. Why didn't we have Patterson and Dibling on the field from the start? They were available and on the bench.

I went for Pickford as MoM solely for the save that stopped a debacle becoming a disaster. I was tending towards Tim Ireogbunam who had a good game for the most part, as did Harrison Armstrong. McNeil had another stinker.

Kavanaugh on VAR is always a bad sign for us, but calling out a hair pull as violent behaviour is taking the piss.

We need fullbacks urgently, O'Brien isn't one.

 

[davids]

Couldn't even be arsed posting on here last night I was that disinterested but have now just realised it is two seasons on the bounce that we have failed to beat the bottom 3 teams at some point and all six are/were abject. We even lost on aggregate in 3 matches against woeful Wolves this season.
Progress,What progress?

We should beat the bottom sides home and away,but don't think we have in decades.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

So took a bit of time to sit down and gather my thoughts from last night.

The team is lucky there was 2 red cards, cos its actually masked alot of the problem.

Theres players in that team who should be nowhere near it, I get it injuries, but there is a element where Moyes has to take the blame for not changing, those changes last night where far too late.

McNeil, he has reverted to type - remember when Gylfi- was called the invisible man? Strategically moving into space so he didnt challenge. McNeil has perfected this. Playing on the right, moving into the middle, letting players ghost past him. I know we cant afford to move players on at the moment, but he needs moving away from the squad.

Obrien, god love him, good CB but not a good right back, Dibling has been made a scape goat, but when you have a RB who cant move forward with play, plays the most simple passes to the other team its ludicrous.

Thats the tip of the iceberg, theres plenty I could say about most, Tarkowski has become a liability this season every game theres a passing mistake.

I come to Moyes now, because he should NEVER have changed a winning side to get Keane back into the squad. Patterson we all know isnt good enough, but he offers so much more going down the right.

I am hoping the "we are more unlikely to do something" is just hyperbole, because we need full backs ASAP - we cant go through the rest of the season with this set up and some players getting absolutely off Scott free.

 

[davids]

It also doesn't help when the manager plays square pegs in round holes either and I haven't got a scooby where McNeil was supposed to be playing, number 10, right wing? Who knows. And as I've said before Tarky always looks better when not playing alongside Keane. What on earth that defence was doing for their goal, I don't know unless it was an impersonation of the Red Sea.

Pickford couldn't open his arms wide enough to describe it when he ranted at Tarkowski and Keane.

 

[Ged G]

Yeah, I think his lack of experience showed as I say.

I thought he’d started the game well, too.

He was card happy, gave their keeper a yellow early on, too, for words not deeds. Wanted to make an impression, a name for himself. He will be defended by the "powers that be" and fans of other clubs (because tribalism rules) and even some of ours because it fits their anti Moyes and and indeed anti EFC way of thinking. All in all, he should have spoken to, for example, Grealish and diffused the situation. PS. He should watch vids of Rugby Union refs and see how they manage things.

 

[malfosse]

Best thing about last night was before kick off. Found my dads brick but unfortunately all down hill from there.
Insipid, lacklustre, uninspiring cba rubbish.

 

[evertony]

If Moyes, the players and the owners cba, then I don’t think I can anymore.

Massive chance to kick on, Europe was a real possibility this season due to the poor premier league, and we completely crap the bed.

Negative team selection & crap use of the squad and subs by the manager, players totally not giving a toss bar a couple of the younger members of the squad, and supposedly experienced pros losing their heads and not being professional enough doing their jobs.

McNeil should not be on the field or used off the bench, he’s completely garbage; one of Keane or Tarks should have been dropped after the Brentford shitshow so JOB could move centrally; subs should have came well before they did - so reactive from Moyes, even though we could all see the game was heading away from us; the subs when they came were crap.

Jordan Pickford basically won us a point last night, against the worst team the PL has seen for many a year.

I don’t want to hear about players missing due to afcon or injury, every team is affected by those things.

We will improve when these players come back of course, but that’s more in spite of the manager than because of him.

I can recognise the good job Moyes has done in stabilising and improving us since returning, but it’s getting harder & harder to forgive his awful handling of the new signings, particularly the younger lads, the shocking negative cowardly team selections, especially at home and the awful tactics and chronic sub use, game by game - he’s been out coached by throw in merchant Keith Andrews and Rob fecking Edwards the last two matches - it’s just not good enough.

I’ll be there on sat, but have zero confidence in getting a result.

Couldn't put it any better Nath...saved me a job.

Getting home a 1am doesn't help either knowing it was an early start for work and an early start on Saturday to watch his same over-cautious approach to every game we play.

He can't change a game in-game, is absolutely indefensible in his lack of use of substitutions, and he bores the backside off a big percentage of the crowd. Another showing like this on Saturday, or fielding an even more weakened 11 and he should be shaken by the hand and shown the door. And before the 'you can't say that about Saint David' mob pile in, my opinion was the same from day one so it's not reactionary, it's based on what I saw in the last 3 years of his previous stint and everywhere else he rocked up with his butter knife, and exactly what concerned me about him coming back.
He's done the job of stabilising us, but that credit in the bank can very quickly be eroded with more team selections and performances like this. And don't get me bstarted on Dwight McSnail.

 

[Yarrgh]

So took a bit of time to sit down and gather my thoughts from last night.

The team is lucky there was 2 red cards, cos its actually masked alot of the problem.

Theres players in that team who should be nowhere near it, I get it injuries, but there is a element where Moyes has to take the blame for not changing, those changes last night where far too late.

McNeil, he has reverted to type - remember when Gylfi- was called the invisible man? Strategically moving into space so he didnt challenge. McNeil has perfected this. Playing on the right, moving into the middle, letting players ghost past him. I know we cant afford to move players on at the moment, but he needs moving away from the squad.

Obrien, god love him, good CB but not a good right back, Dibling has been made a scape goat, but when you have a RB who cant move forward with play, plays the most simple passes to the other team its ludicrous.

Thats the tip of the iceberg, theres plenty I could say about most, Tarkowski has become a liability this season every game theres a passing mistake.

I come to Moyes now, because he should NEVER have changed a winning side to get Keane back into the squad. Patterson we all know isnt good enough, but he offers so much more going down the right.

I am hoping the "we are more unlikely to do something" is just hyperbole, because we need full backs ASAP - we cant go through the rest of the season with this set up and some players getting absolutely off Scott free.

That's a very good point about O'Brien and Dibling. Unfair on both players to not have a specialist right back there.

In general I am not impressed with last night's performance. I thank our lucky stars that Pickford was there to save a point for us, but we shouldn't be relying on him to do that against Wolves with their team and season's performances - though it's churlish not to say well done to Wolves for their play in the second half and realising we were there to be got at.

I agree with the general consensus of our bad points and Moyes's inability to affect any positive change. I know he might be stuck with a couple of weak spots in the team right now, but that's what he's paid to ensure we can cope with it and be competitive. 5 points out of the last 12 available, is a very poor return given that 12 were feasibly obtainable by playing well and being solid in defence and 7-9 was par.

What can sort this out? Full backs? Definitely part of the solution - given we only have Mykolenko, a 90 year old Coleman and a not ready Aznou, that has to be remedied if we want to progress at all. Get Ndiaye and Dewsbury-Hall back and we look better again which might make our up front deficiency not look so bad and at our price range, there's no forward that isn't a massive gamble so it might not make a jot of difference anyway.

Meh. Who's next up? I want to forget all about this - can we have an international break for the next couple of weeks please?

 

[davek]

So took a bit of time to sit down and gather my thoughts from last night.

The team is lucky there was 2 red cards, cos its actually masked alot of the problem.

Theres players in that team who should be nowhere near it, I get it injuries, but there is a element where Moyes has to take the blame for not changing, those changes last night where far too late.

McNeil, he has reverted to type - remember when Gylfi- was called the invisible man? Strategically moving into space so he didnt challenge. McNeil has perfected this. Playing on the right, moving into the middle, letting players ghost past him. I know we cant afford to move players on at the moment, but he needs moving away from the squad.

Obrien, god love him, good CB but not a good right back, Dibling has been made a scape goat, but when you have a RB who cant move forward with play, plays the most simple passes to the other team its ludicrous.

Thats the tip of the iceberg, theres plenty I could say about most, Tarkowski has become a liability this season every game theres a passing mistake.

I come to Moyes now, because he should NEVER have changed a winning side to get Keane back into the squad. Patterson we all know isnt good enough, but he offers so much more going down the right.

I am hoping the "we are more unlikely to do something" is just hyperbole, because we need full backs ASAP - we cant go through the rest of the season with this set up and some players getting absolutely off Scott free.

The back 4 should have stayed at Garner Tarkowski O'Brien Mykolenko.

That's the solid foundation that we needed and we had it but Moyes then ripped it up.

We can still have that against Sunderland, btw.

 

[davek]

Meh. Who's next up? I want to forget all about this - can we have an international break for the next couple of weeks please?

No. And we have a very winnable FA Cup tie against another struggling team and we have home advantage.

I suggest we win that one and keep our season alive.

Even now I'd make us favourites to win that tie.

After that we'll have AFCON players back or thereabouts and we have to get a top ten spot.

If we the fans dont demand quality and performance then this lot will sink into a pit.

 

[Yarrgh]

The back 4 should have stayed at Garner Tarkowski O'Brien Mykolenko.

That's the solid foundation that we needed and we had it but Moyes then ripped it up.

We can still have that against Sunderland, btw.

In fact with Keane suspended in the league, might as well give them at least the 2 games in a row to bed in like that. Could be a happy accident that.

 

[davek]

In fact with Keane suspended in the league, might as well give them at least the 2 games in a row to bed in like that. Could be a happy accident that.

Yes, and we'll have to go with Iroegbunam and Armstrong in MF and tell them to get abut Xhaka and disrupt him.

 

[Socistep2]

It also doesn't help when the manager plays square pegs in round holes either and I haven't got a scooby where McNeil was supposed to be playing, number 10, right wing? Who knows. And as I've said before Tarky always looks better when not playing alongside Keane. What on earth that defence was doing for their goal, I don't know unless it was an impersonation of the Red Sea.

JOB was so slow to react and tarky out of position, I get the feeling some players are coasting a little given we aren't going down