Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Joey66 said:
Yes it looks like Brexit is still moving on via the supreme court May has stated her plans for brexit will still be in process ,and a statement from her will be made on Monday whatever the result I shall accept them still confident that brexit will go ahead!
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Good. I wanted to remain but accept the result of the referendum.

Just glad it's going to a parliamentary vote so there may be some protection from an economically suicidal "hard brexit", but I won't hold my breath.
 
Blue 1 said:
Hope Brexiters can just accept the ruling of the UK high court and move on.
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I think we have done. In fact I think I said it even before the ruling. If the laws says that it must be passed by Parliament then that is what should happen.

I like the fact that if the economy continues doing OK then it was just a continuation of the Brexit factor. Of course if anything now happens negatively then we can just blame the remainers. Shoe, other, foot.......
 
Tubey said:
You don't seem to know what a lie is.

The referendum was, legally, non-binding - as in not binary.

If you don't understand that, then it's your issue with not understanding the basic facts of the thing - which is unsurprising to be blunt.
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It's there in black and white, no mention of parlimentary vote.
 
dandydan said:
It's there in black and white, no mention of parlimentary vote.
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It doesn't need to mention it; it's inherent in what it was. It's called parliamentary sovereignty, and the referendum was not binary, therefore did not overrule the process of parliament.

"Implement" means something other than what you think it does. Whenever a government brings a bill to parliament to pass into law, that is an attempt to "implement" it.

If you want to take a badly worded leaflet or whatever that is over the basic laws of our land, then go for it, but it makes you a conspiracy nut by definition.
 
Tubey said:
Not really, that depends on the EU, who will set the conditions. It still makes me laugh that people think there will be any sort of real negotiation on this - there won't be. The government still basically have to leave, and they are now committed to no freedom of movement, which means no single market - despite the lies peddled to the contrary. So it's 'hard' Brexit all the same, unless something drastically changes.
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I agree on the stance of the EU, they made their view clear way before the referendum and the idea that they'd allow the first nation of note to leave the EU to be seen to still have their cake, was always pie in the sky.

However I don't agree with conclusion that the Govt will still be able to press on putting immigration before the economy, they won't be given a mandate by both houses to proceed on that basis imo. Today was a game changer, not merely a delay before the inevitable outcome imo.
 
I expect record low numbers for the next major vote/election after today's farce. We wonder why we always end up with such terrible governments and have such apathy towards politics but then treat the electorate with complete contempt. It suits the political establishment for the bulk of us not to care anymore.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
I agree on the stance of the EU, they made their view clear way before the referendum and the idea that they'd allow the first nation of note to leave the EU to be seen to still have their cake, was always pie in the sky.

However I don't agree with conclusion that the Govt will still be able to press on putting immigration before the economy, they won't be given a mandate by both houses to proceed on that basis imo. Today was a game changer, not merely a delay before the inevitable outcome imo.
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We'll see, but in my eyes parliament won't have the guts to overrule, fearing civil unrest, despite how obvious the decision is economically.

I think all this does is take away the sovereign ability of one person in May to make this decision like she's the Queen in 1723 or something and put it in the hands of the elected body for the entire process, which is obviously the right thing to do.
 
As someone who will admit I voted Leave in the vain hope that a Leave decision would bring the EU back to the table for discussions (gamble failed there, admittedly), then I'm glad it'll now be fought out by the very people who we vote in to make these decisions on our behalf.

Whilst I was not happy with the form in which the EU was taking, I never wanted a direct vote on this matter. I'm quite sure many feel the same.
 
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