Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Barnfred 55]

If I were TM I would not appeal the judgement....the people will sort out MP's who wish to defy the referendum result....there will be a lot of noise from the constant remainers for the next week or so, let it play out, let them enjoy their 'win'. I even hope they crow a bit as this will just stiffen the resolve of the Leave voters and make some remain voters wonder about the vanity of these politicians.....

I agree. Going through appeal process will only prolong matters further as it appears that the legalities in this are pretty clear. But it looks like they've made that decision I'm afraid. In my view the Govt need to immediately start working on a plan to put this through parliament. What I'm not clear about at the moment is whether this could be done by a vote or whether an Act of Parliament is required, which in itself could take months. Bear in mind they weren't looking to invoke article 50 until the spring anyway so it may not delay the process too much.

It's going to be really interesting to see how this plays out. The vast majority of MPs were remain supporters, as were the parties themselves with the exception of UKIP obviously. But the voters, narrowly it must be said, went against the parties views. So are MPs going to follow their own beliefs, or will they respect/reflect the wishes of the majority of the constituents they represent.? It's possible that article 50 may not even be invoked at all which calls into question the purpose on the referendum in the first place.

We may not see the real effects of this until the next general election, and it's possible that this issue may even invoke an early election.

This legal decision, in my view, has opened up a constitutional can of worms. As a side issue I also have big concerns that the uncertainty over the future this will create, will have a far bigger impact on our financial stability than the Brexit vote.

 

[Tubey]

UK courts in common sense shocker.

Obviously it should be put to a vote...

 

[dandydan]

UK courts in common sense shocker.

Obviously it should be put to a vote...

It was, it just didn't get the expected result.

 

[Thomasc]

Too much apathy for civil unrest IMO.

It was basically a vote against the establishment, the result of which the majority of those voting didn't have a clue what they were voting for, apart of course from the UK being overrun by those nasty foreign types.

The more sensible ones have realised the effect on the economy now as it has been beamed into their homes now for 2 months by the news channels.

 

[Tubey]

It was, it just didn't get the expected result.

A referendum is advisory. It should be applied, but it should be applied legally. Parliament exists for a reason - it is sovereign.

I'm amazed there's even been a discussion on this. Any attempt to exit without parliament approval would result in legal challenges all over the shop anyway, and rightly so. May should have immediately said this is going to parliament for a vote, because the end result would have been parliament voting for it anyway, as they wouldn't go against the public wish.

Basically, Brexiteers - fearing their outright lies being put under intense scrutiny - have tried to avoid this, when they should have embraced it as it makes no difference whatsoever to the end result.

 

[Joey66]

It was, it just didn't get the expected result.

See the rich people lined up on those steps Bob the plumber a big Tory donor!
http://www.businessreport.co.uk/article/00426/from-pipe-dream-to-millionaire
May to adress parliment on Monday it looks like shes taking it to the supreme court.
the lawyers are just getting richer!

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Basically, Brexiteers - fearing their outright lies being put under intense scrutiny - have tried to avoid this, when they should have embraced it as it makes no difference whatsoever to the end result.

I think it most definitely does make a difference to the end result, as Parliament & the Lords will be able to effectively block any plans for an economically Kamikaze hard brexit.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

See the rich people lined up on those steps Bob the plumber a big Tory donor!
http://www.businessreport.co.uk/article/00426/from-pipe-dream-to-millionaire
May to adress parliment on Monday it looks like shes taking it to the supreme court.
the lawyers are just getting richer!

Our democracy has been upheld Joey, you should be chuffed given that you've been going on about it's importance every day since June 23rd mate.

 

[Blue 1]

Hope Brexiters can just accept the ruling of the UK high court and move on.

 

[dandydan]

A referendum is advisory. It should be applied, but it should be applied legally. Parliament exists for a reason - it is sovereign.

I'm amazed there's even been a discussion on this. Any attempt to exit without parliament approval would result in legal challenges all over the shop anyway, and rightly so. May should have immediately said this is going to parliament for a vote, because the end result would have been parliament voting for it anyway, as they wouldn't go against the public wish.

Basically, Brexiteers - fearing their outright lies being put under intense scrutiny - have tried to avoid this, when they should have embraced it as it makes no difference whatsoever to the end result.

The biggest lie of all. Nothing about parlimentary votes there.

 

[Joey66]

Hope Brexiters can just accept the ruling of the UK high court and move on.

Yes it looks like Brexit is still moving on via the supreme court May has stated her plans for brexit will still be in process ,and a statement from her will be made on Monday whatever the result I shall accept them still confident that brexit will go ahead!

 

[joey_macmo]

The biggest lie of all. Nothing about parlimentary votes there.
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A piece of election material doesn't overrule the law thankfully.

 

[Tubey]

I think it most definitely does make a difference to the end result, as Parliament & the Lords will be able to effectively block any plans for an economically Kamikaze hard brexit.

Not really, that depends on the EU, who will set the conditions. It still makes me laugh that people think there will be any sort of real negotiation on this - there won't be. The government still basically have to leave, and they are now committed to no freedom of movement, which means no single market - despite the lies peddled to the contrary. So it's 'hard' Brexit all the same, unless something drastically changes.

 

[joey_macmo]

Yes it looks like Brexit is still moving on via the supreme court May has stated her plans for brexit will still be in process ,and a statement from her will be made on Monday whatever the result I shall accept them still confident that brexit will go ahead!

 

[Thomasc]

The biggest lie of all. Nothing about parlimentary votes there.
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I am sure there were some equally as big lies out there, particularly from big Nige and Boris.

Boris probably not arsed now anyway, he's landed a plum job.