Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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No mate, we need an agreed framework before brexit.
jaycee said:
Not a go at you Joey,but both sides of the campaign are aĺl based on hints,guesswork,predictions and scare mongering,until the exit happens and has a few years to work then no one knows whether it will be good or bad for the population
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peteblue said:
Then just to educate.....

Despite the general similarity of the two agreements there is a major difference in the domain of standards. While the exact rules are rather complex and detailed and also differ for different types of NTMs, the main difference is that in CETA the standards of the importer country will prevail, while TTIP strives for mutual recognition of standards.

Irrespective of the comprehensive tariff reduction and elimination, generally CETA does not eliminate the differences in standards. Imports still need to comply with the rules and regulations that the product in question needs to satisfy on the respective import market (technical, sanitary or phytosanitary rules for the security and the protection of the consumer, the user or the environment, including notably food safety and labelling requirements).

There are several procedural improvements (e.g. regarding ‘Technical Barriers to Trade’, TBTs) making it easier for an EU exporter to obtain the required certification for the Canadian market (and vice versa) that obviously lower trade costs but Canadians standards have to be obeyed (and vice versa). Hence, many of the sensitive issues debated in TTIP remain untouched by CETA.

The situation regarding standards is entirely different in TTIP as the US insists on ‘regulatory cooperation’ which may mean harmonisation of standards or mutual recognition of standards. Mutual recognition of standards means that a product admitted to the US market may also be sold anywhere in the EU (and vice versa) or a body needs to decide on the applied standards. While harmonisation or mutual recognition of standards will entail the largest trade effects, it is therefore here where most risks, be it environmental or health-related) for consumers may arise.
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Which products does CETA have tariff reductions for? And which tariffs have been eliminated?
 
orchard said:
No mate, we need an agreed framework before brexit.
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Yes but im on about arguments put forward by both camps before the vote,then the discussions in this thread,will it bring desolation to the country or the complete opposite of a land of milk and honey,which seems to be the only two views on here,we dont know how its going to pan out in the long term
 
jaycee said:
Yes but im on about arguments put forward by both camps before the vote,then the discussions in this thread,will it bring desolation to the country or the complete opposite of a land of milk and honey,which seems to be the only two views on here,we dont know how its going to pan out in the long term
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Bruce Wayne said:
Bit of Googling for you Joe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_alternative_to_a_negotiated_agreement
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Blimey. I went on a sales course about all that about 20 years ago.

I filed it under "common sense" after 3 days in a Heathrow hotel.

Mind you, for funsises, I did close a factory and sack everyone when the Union bloke I was "negotiating" with asked for a 10% pay rise! We didnt take the codswallop that seriously.

Meeting a couple of Blues was actually more interesting and fun.
 
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