Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Initially stayed with friends in Dublin, eventually found a place in Kildare.

I'm in Kilkenny since 1990, now retired, but originally from Southside of Dublin.

Mrs BR and I spent a very pleasant day yesterday touring around Celbridge, Leixlip, Cliff at Lyons - parts of Kildare that i have often driven through since 1985, but never stopped to explore.

Interesting history!!

Dr Arthur Price who was Archbishop of Cashel from 1744 until his death was originally born between Celbridge and Straffan. He was ordained in the Church of Ireland and had also served as Bishop of Clonfert (1724–1730), Ferns and Leighlin (1730–1734) and Meath (1734–1744).

1722, Richard Guinness had arrived in Celbridge and was employed as a land steward by Price on his Oakley Park estate. One of his duties was to supervise the brewing of beer for the workers on the estate.

It was also in 1722 that Dr. Price took over James Carberry’s Brewery (formerly Norris’s pub and now The Village Inn). It is assumed that this is the first house of the Guinness Family in Celbridge.

Arthur Guinness Richard's son, was born in Celbridge in 1725. He was named after the Archbishop who left both father and son £100 in his will. Arthur Guinness brewed his first beer in James Carberry’s brewery in Celbridge.

At the age of 31 Arthur Guinness had a small brewery in Leixlip - no trace of it now, but the site is marked with a plaque. In 1759 he arrived at St. James’ Gate Dublin where he established one of the world’s most famous breweries. He changed from ales to brewing stout by 1769

His mentor. Archbishop Price died in Cashel in 1752, and is buried in the aisle of St Mary's Church of Ireland in Leixlip. Thus although he helped to get Arthur started, he didn't live to see the success of St Janes' Gate and the 'new' Guinness stout.

.So Guinness started in Kildare!!! :)


Did Brexit lead to a significant increase in price of Guinness in UK ?

Park Royal ceased in 2005, and all UK Guinness is brewed in Dublin
 
It’s kind of baffling we are still having this debate. We had the best deal in the EU by far. Kept our own currency, had veto power and a seat at the top table. Can’t remember the exact numbers now but it was something like 98% of EU votes went the way we voted.

The country is obviously in a much worse state than it was before we left. Obviously there are other mitigating factors (damn you Masters!).

The same people that say we (the UK) are struggling because of Covid and Russia invading Ukraine (I.e not Brexit) but then claim the EU is in a worse state because of the EU is just baffling.
 
Reflecting on Brexit, Pete, it's clear that a truthful referendum, unclouded by misleading information, would almost certainly have yielded a different outcome.

The repercussions of that vote extend beyond just the economy, impacting both macro as well as micro factors. Many who were persuaded to vote for leaving now see the drawbacks. Exporters, farmers, fishermen and SMEs across the country are all facing livelihood threatening challenges because of border issues and new import export realities.

Figures like Rees Mogg and Farage profited by shorting the pound, leaving the man on the street to bear the brunt, and lets be honest, that's what it was really about. Benefitting a few and in doing so making life worse for the many.

You can even see certain traumas on GOT, for example, the ridiculous situation of families with a British partner and foreign spouse confronted with post-Brexit uncertainties and being told that they cant come home! A situation that is quite frankly nonsensical. The xenophobia drummed up by the Brexiteers is a disgrace that has caused serious societal issues. The Brexiteers have pushed us into a toxic position that is going to take some healing and education to move away from.

I think its fair and reasonable to say that Brexit is more of an ill-thought-out mess than a well-executed plan, and if you can't see that the cliff edge was the vote then you clearly had your eyes shut.
It is great that we can seemingly accept this and hopefully correct these errors. :pint2:
 
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And that’s fine, except that what began as an economic trading bloc, which I voted for, became a political union which I didn’t……
Your right It's going to be fine actually and more importantly why Labor and Liberals with their coined remoaning leadership reputations are gobbling up Brexit heartlands as the electorate find no cake to even eat, not even Greener grass on those sunlit uplands...
 
While this thread may not be the most fitting place for such a heartening story, it illustrates that when we dispel xenophobia and sabre-rattling, we can recognise ourselves as one people, bound by a common humanity, regardless of the continent from which we arrived. The nationalist, isolationist nonsense needs booting.

 
Initially stayed with friends in Dublin, eventually found a place in Kildare.
Ah nice. We’ve thought about a move to Kildare. Mrs works in Dublin and it’s a hell of a commute from where we are. Although my work is in Belfast plus kid’s in school here so we’ve been flip flopping.

re the uni thing we made sure our wee boy got his Irish passport as soon as so he can hopefully study or live in the EU if he wants in later years. And for us too - none of this passport control malarkey lol
 
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