Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Don’t disagree but there were a lot of reasons for this. Not many people are intensely pro eu or don’t admit it is without faults, whereas the leave campaign was able to paint this idea of a sunny utopia upon leaving. Notice the shift now to ‘10 year hit’ or ‘wasn’t implemented properly’ If that had been included in any leave campaign then we wouldn’t have ended up with the shitshow we have now.
What gets me is the lack of any apparent "manifesto" by which leaving can be judged. This is allowed by Mr Equivalence et al saying that the campaign meant nothing when it came to implementing it, even though the government was stuffed full of people making the empty promises, hence we still get these crooks trying to pass off the physical act of leaving as the end in itself rather than the act of leaving actually delivering benefits to the country.
 
Remainers have never left the EU. All they do is moan. Guy Verhofstadt has even claimed that Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had the U.K. still been part of the EU. Those in the U.K. elite who believe they ‘know better’ do everything to undermine Brexit, aided by the EU, as a way to force a return. Many Remainers will never give up the struggle of attempting to overcome the vote and all this does is damage and undermine the U.K. Scotland is a prime example, it wanted to stay in the U.K. but wanted to remain, and you have to respect their reasons. But of course the SNP now use this as a way to leave the U.K. and join the EU. Meanwhile because the SNP led government is doing everything it can to pick a fight with Westminster (the trans debacle being the latest nonsense), Scotland is going to the dogs in education, health, drugs, etc because the political focus is not on making the U.K. work….

Putin will be delighted at Brexit.

That in itself should be enough to show it is detrimental for the UK and EU.
 
The 10 year plan squad are the most baffling. Heard nothing of this timeline during the campaign, and it is fairly hopeful stuff when you're talking about an administration that wanted to rip up the agreement they agreed to less than a year after signing it.
Who votes for things possibly being better but will take 10 years of grimness? Imagine a political party going in with that on their manifesto.

Mind, stick a top hat on it and a posh voice and the bootlickers would still lap it up.
 
So, guys, what are the EU doing that is so wonderful. Germany has become a financial basket case, Macron and Schulz are terrified of Putin, Eastern Europe are becoming disillusioned, everyone and his dog is using the veto to stop anything moving forward…so what is so fantastic…..
 
Come on, you are more intelligent than that, I also believe you are older than 12.

You might as well have said 'Your face has regrets' or maybe a bit more of a saucy retort like 'Your ma has regrets'.

However, let us debate in an adult manner, so I ask you, what do you believe the remainers have to regret, compared to the leavers?
lollollol
 
So, guys, what are the EU doing that is so wonderful. Germany has become a financial basket case, Macron and Schulz are terrified of Putin, Eastern Europe are becoming disillusioned, everyone and his dog is using the veto to stop anything moving forward…so what is so fantastic…..
Free movement for me - because that works both ways. There's now millions of remote workers who don't have the opportunity to move into Europe like the generations before them, who quite rightly, were able to take that for granted.
 
So, guys, what are the EU doing that is so wonderful. Germany has become a financial basket case, Macron and Schulz are terrified of Putin, Eastern Europe are becoming disillusioned, everyone and his dog is using the veto to stop anything moving forward…so what is so fantastic…..
Wow, there’s a week’s worth of Telegraph headlines, squeezed into that one paragraph of pure Faragist fundamentalism.

Try asking yourself, why countries like Poland and Slovenia will soon overtake the UK, in terms of gdp ?

When you’ve grasped those facts. Here’s the truth about post Brexit UK.
 
Wow, there’s a week’s worth of Telegraph headlines, squeezed into that one paragraph of pure Faragist fundamentalism.

Try asking yourself, why countries like Poland and Slovenia will soon overtake the UK, in terms of gdp ?

When you’ve grasped those facts. Here’s the truth about post Brexit UK.
CZ rejected the Johnsonian candidate (Babis) in both prime ministerial and presidential elections recently too. There is a pretty strong consensus that the mess the UK is in has quelled the anti-EU sentiment across Europe, which is reflected in Pew data from last year.

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So, guys, what are the EU doing that is so wonderful. Germany has become a financial basket case, Macron and Schulz are terrified of Putin, Eastern Europe are becoming disillusioned, everyone and his dog is using the veto to stop anything moving forward…so what is so fantastic…..
One benefit is the ability to work in lots of countries without having to apply for a work visa.
Your turn, one benefit of Brexit?
 
CZ rejected the Johnsonian candidate (Babis) in both prime ministerial and presidential elections recently too. There is a pretty strong consensus that the mess the UK is in has quelled the anti-EU sentiment across Europe, which is reflected in Pew data from last year.

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I don’t want to call you a liar but I’ve read in here many , many times that France would vote to leave if they were given a chance . So explain that , go on do it .
 
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