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It seems to be a worldwide issue which is strange really, one can only assume a result from Covid….
tsubaki
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TBF that isn't all down to Brexit - they've let firms like Uber, Amazon, Just Eat and the rest come along and create thousands of socially useless jobs.
That's pretty snobbish. Life during Covid would have been pretty difficult for the likes of you and I if it wasn't for those delivery drivers. Would you prefer deliveries to be made by robots and those people had no job at all?
roydo
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What an utterly pathetic and ill informed post.
Not your finest hour here Tsubaki. Those companies treat their staff quite poorly, but I think there are at least a fair few of us who are thankful for the delivery drivers who kept us stocked and fed over the pandemic and continue to do so now
roydo
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If you cast your mind back to early days of lock down #1, and the emergence of a new variant in Kent, the science folk were able to trace the several likely carriers by cross referencing the GP Codes from the socially useless DPDS delivery drivers (who delivered the test kits) to isolate the outbreak.
gonetomorrow
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Care homes.......in which many have an abiding interest.
spectateur
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Pretty obvious that many posters inhabit heavily populated city areas.
Millions of us live in rural areas where deliveries don't exist. We got through lock downs without just eat and pizza.
roydo
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It provoked my first ever middle finger.
"We can't get the staff" etc.
It's the same here in Australia...though I'm not sure the reasons are all the same.
But it's a definite 'thing'
The short(er)version was;
For a long time people were not allowed to go to their job, some 'worked from home' ok for them.
But you can't pour the customer a beer or a coffee from home, or load a lorry, or whatever.
Thus, many people were paid 'job saver' money - paid to stay home basically.
Have many people got used to staying home, have they learned to cope? - So why work?
Plenty got plain old laid off - airline staff etc. - then some were selectively allowed to get their jobs back, under worse conditions. Which many decline to do - why would you If you're 'managing after a fashion'.
For what it's worth, Unemployment is at a near all time low at under 4%...and there is a theory that you'll never get it below 3% because the 3% are, for many reasons - unemployable
It's the same here in Australia...though I'm not sure the reasons are all the same.
But it's a definite 'thing'
The short(er)version was;
For a long time people were not allowed to go to their job, some 'worked from home' ok for them.
But you can't pour the customer a beer or a coffee from home, or load a lorry, or whatever.
Thus, many people were paid 'job saver' money - paid to stay home basically.
Have many people got used to staying home, have they learned to cope? - So why work?
Plenty got plain old laid off - airline staff etc. - then some were selectively allowed to get their jobs back, under worse conditions. Which many decline to do - why would you If you're 'managing after a fashion'.
For what it's worth, Unemployment is at a near all time low at under 4%...and there is a theory that you'll never get it below 3% because the 3% are, for many reasons - unemployable
There are a couple of significant factors at play here. Firstly, EU migration has fallen considerably since Brexit such that around 200,000 fewer Europeans are coming to work in Britain each year. Hospitality alone is down around 100,000 Europeans. We're also in a situation whereby since Covid over 300,000 older workers have left the workforce and entered early retirement.
The first of those problems is something wholly unique to the UK as its a situation of our own making, and while non-EU immigration has risen enormously in the same period, it's clearly not a like for like swap so there are sectors that are struggling as a result.
The second is very much a global phenomenon and reflects the ageism that is inherent across society and the poor attitudes towards older workers that has prompted so many to say "stuff it" and go into retirement rather than either have to suffer outdated attitudes in their place of work or suffer them when trying to find new work.
I'm not sure it is wholly unique.
We have a similar shortfall due to lack of working holiday visa workers, and a cut back in international travel.
Yep I can see that, experienced it first hand...as will you lol
Edit; Although I bailed well before Covid
There have been reductions in mobility in the past few years, and I know Ukrainians and Russians were commonly found in agricultural jobs, but equally much of Europe has not only received a lot of Ukrainian refugees but also got the majority of them into work.
FrenchDarrenBent
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It's a bit more difficult.
Months Into War, Ukraine Refugees Slow to Join EU Workforce
Many are only now starting to find jobs — and many are still struggling
www.voanews.com
In Poland, which has taken in about 1 million Ukrainian refugees, more than any other EU nation, just over a third have found work, according to the Polish minister of labor and social policy, Marlena Malag. Some have gotten jobs as nurses or Ukrainian language teachers in Polish schools, while others are working as housekeepers or waitresses.
The real problem is: they don't find the workforce to do the same job the self-employed Polish (or Czech, Romanian...) lad did for 10 quid an hour. There were certain European rules and exemptions that made it a win-win situation for employer-employee (mainly: taxes & social security payments could be paid in the home country). With the end of free movement, Britain lost those people.
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