Current Affairs EU In or Out

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    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

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Brexit really is great

Brexit has stopped any English club signing an under-18 player, with any over 18 player subject to entry criteria, which given this kid hasn't made his first team debut yet he'd have no chance. It would rule out signing like Nkonkou though were we to try and sign him now.

 
I see the bitter EU are still refusing the U.K. access to the Lugano convention, even though it makes perfect sense for all parties. Hey get on with it, we understand your bitterness and your nasty approach and we will live with it. Until of course you find out you need us……
 
The thing that the government have conveniently failed to understand is that countries regularly rely on labour from elsewhere. They have got caught up trying to win the xenophobic vote that they have essentially sacrificed fundamental principles of a healthy, functioning economy.
There will have to be an inevitable backtracking at some point.
 
The thing that the government have conveniently failed to understand is that countries regularly rely on labour from elsewhere. They have got caught up trying to win the xenophobic vote that they have essentially sacrificed fundamental principles of a healthy, functioning economy.
There will have to be an inevitable backtracking at some point.


It's one thing to have jobs available, it's another to have enough people capable of doing it and I don't necessarily believe we have to rely on foreign labor.

We're in a bit of a pickle when it comes to poorly paid workers, a consequence of generations happily thinking that the people at the bottom only deserve the minimum.

Assuming all employers bring up their lowest pay levels I'll wage 20% but this would still only solve part of the issue.

There needs to be a control on the costs of food and housing. I don't know if it's possible to control food prices. Not sure if this government would want to.

The second point could be dealt with by building (considerably) more homes with rent controls.

Definitely sure that this government isn't interested in or some of its supposed political opponents.
 
The thing that the government have conveniently failed to understand is that countries regularly rely on labour from elsewhere. They have got caught up trying to win the xenophobic vote that they have essentially sacrificed fundamental principles of a healthy, functioning economy.
There will have to be an inevitable backtracking at some point.
It's a quandary isn't it? No government really wants to raise the retirement age, despite people living longer, and Covid has encouraged many boomers to enter retirement even earlier than they ordinarily would. Traditionally immigration has been required to plug that gap as the birth rate hasn't really been high enough for some time, which has created the bizarre tangle the Tories have always gotten themselves into of needing migration for the economy while also having to appear tough on migration to appease the xenophobes in their party.
 
Time for the capitalist and finance to do one as well.


No government really wants to raise the retirement age, despite people living longer, and Covid has encouraged many boomers to enter retirement even earlier than they ordinarily would
Where have you been in the last decade!?
 
So, the end of what was effectively an unlimited supply of cheap labour, means that wages in the UK, for the working classes, are now on average going up. Maybe not for all jobs, but the wages for many lower paid jobs are no longer being depressed by an over supply of labour. The working classes now have a bit of leverage to demand a better wage... The company I work for has just voluntarily given out mass pay rises in the range of 10-20%, to stop the high turnover of staff who can earn more elsewhere.
 
So, the end of what was effectively an unlimited supply of cheap labour, means that wages in the UK, for the working classes, are now on average going up. Maybe not for all jobs, but the wages for many lower paid jobs are no longer being depressed by an over supply of labour. The working classes now have a bit of leverage to demand a better wage... The company I work for has just voluntarily given out mass pay rises in the range of 10-20%, to stop the high turnover of staff who can earn more elsewhere.

Never myself brought into the idea of having to move jobs and change career, nothing wrong in the concept continuity and experience.

However, who ends up paying for the 10-20%?
 
So, the end of what was effectively an unlimited supply of cheap labour, means that wages in the UK, for the working classes, are now on average going up. Maybe not for all jobs, but the wages for many lower paid jobs are no longer being depressed by an over supply of labour. The working classes now have a bit of leverage to demand a better wage... The company I work for has just voluntarily given out mass pay rises in the range of 10-20%, to stop the high turnover of staff who can earn more elsewhere.
sounds good, but it will fuel inflation. this will affect everyone, even those who don't benefit from a pay rise at work.
So incomes will go up for most but the cost of living will go up correspondingly for everyone.
Unless it's managed very carefully, a lot of people could be in real trouble.
 
sounds good, but it will fuel inflation. this will affect everyone, even those who don't benefit from a pay rise at work.
So incomes will go up for most but the cost of living will go up correspondingly for everyone.
Unless it's managed very carefully, a lot of people could be in real trouble.

My carers allowance went up by 5p a day the other month. Get in.
 
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