Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
Yes, I replied with a question, are you happy with the protocol, yes or no…it’s a very simple question…but of course you will not answer……
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Why didnt you answer my points instead of trying diversion? Oh, and incidentally, the Protocol is doing exactly what Frost and Johnson negotiated for it to do. Given that the logical extension of the new 'border' is a smoother path to a united Ireland I am happy with the Protocol. So, why aren't Johnson and the woeful Frost owning up to the fact that they agreed the whole Protocol and would still be smug and happy with it were it not for the paramilitaries issuing threats through politicians? They know, and you do, that the Protocol is here and is here to stay. Our little country is no match for for the EU and the USA. The little Englanders need to wise up...
 
Bruce Wayne said:
You seemed quite happy when Astra Zeneca weren't acting in good faith earlier in the year. As it is, the UK has signed an agreement that it now wants out of because it was too lazy and stupid to consider the implications.
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Totally different subject, but Astra Zeneca fulfilled a contract that didn’t include ‘good faith’ only best endeavours…Article 51 demanded good faith which the EU have never applied. As I say, we should just walk away and tear up any agreements with the Eu…they are not either friends, nor allies, nor people to do business with. The individual countries are fine, my complaint is with this unelected bureaucratic EU and always has been….
 
Emlynsqueakyvoice said:
Why didnt you answer my points instead of trying diversion? Oh, and incidentally, the Protocol is doing exactly what Frost and Johnson negotiated for it to do. Given that the logical extension of the new 'border' is a smoother path to a united Ireland I am happy with the Protocol. So, why aren't Johnson and the woeful Frost owning up to the fact that they agreed the whole Protocol and would still be smug and happy with it were it not for the paramilitaries issuing threats through politicians? They know, and you do, that the Protocol is here and is here to stay. Our little country is no match for for the EU and the USA. The little Englanders need to wise up...
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Thank you, so you are happy with the protocol because it gives you what you wanted. However, have you ever thought about those in NI who don’t want a United Ireland ? Is this fairly obvious Republican Protocol and EU trap all that matters. If NI wants to join or even take over the ROI or become totally independent I don’t really care, I just want what the people in NI want. You it appears are following a backdoor nationalist agenda dressed up in a protocol.….
 
Emlynsqueakyvoice said:
Why didnt you answer my points instead of trying diversion? Oh, and incidentally, the Protocol is doing exactly what Frost and Johnson negotiated for it to do. Given that the logical extension of the new 'border' is a smoother path to a united Ireland I am happy with the Protocol. So, why aren't Johnson and the woeful Frost owning up to the fact that they agreed the whole Protocol and would still be smug and happy with it were it not for the paramilitaries issuing threats through politicians? They know, and you do, that the Protocol is here and is here to stay. Our little country is no match for for the EU and the USA. The little Englanders need to wise up...
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Oh, and us ‘little Englanders’ don’t really give a crap about the EU or the USA. Either we are friends or we are not. There are lots of countries who would like to be friends with the worlds fifth largest economy, the strongest military in Europe, one of the worlds greatest financial centres and America‘s greatest friend. I suppose if no one wants us we could always cosy up with Russia and China…I’m sure no one would notice…….
 
peteblue said:
Thank you, so you are happy with the protocol because it gives you what you wanted. However, have you ever thought about those in NI who don’t want a United Ireland ? Is this fairly obvious Republican Protocol and EU trap all that matters. If NI wants to join or even take over the ROI or become totally independent I don’t really care, I just want what the people in NI want. You it appears are following a backdoor nationalist agenda dressed up in a protocol.….
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Ha ha! I stated earlier that the majority of Northern Irish voters who voted in the Brexit poll voted to Remain. Given this, you must be happy that the majority of voters retain the internal market access. Backdoor nationalist agenda? You dont have much of a grasp of all this, do you? There are no conspiracies, European or Irish Republican. The bald fact is that it's your mate Johnson, your mate Lewis, and your unelected mate Lord Frost who signed this agreement. They refused to subject it to scrutiny and they deserve everything that comes their way from their ineptitude...
 
Emlynsqueakyvoice said:
Ha ha! I stated earlier that the majority of Northern Irish voters who voted in the Brexit poll voted to Remain. Given this, you must be happy that the majority of voters retain the internal market access. Backdoor nationalist agenda? You dont have much of a grasp of all this, do you? There are no conspiracies, European or Irish Republican. The bald fact is that it's your mate Johnson, your mate Lewis, and your unelected mate Lord Frost who signed this agreement. They refused to subject it to scrutiny and they deserve everything that comes their way from their ineptitude...
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Boris and Frost may well deserve all that comes to them, and at some point Boris will be out of office. However the communities in NI will still be there and living with a crap Protocol. I would like it changed for everyone’s benefit, you want it to stay to force NI into the ROI. That’s the difference between us….
 
peteblue said:
Oh, and us ‘little Englanders’ don’t really give a crap about the EU or the USA. Either we are friends or we are not. There are lots of countries who would like to be friends with the worlds fifth largest economy, the strongest military in Europe, one of the worlds greatest financial centres and America‘s greatest friend. I suppose if no one wants us we could always cosy up with Russia and China…I’m sure no one would notice…….
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Brexit has made this country a nonentity going forward. You know it, I know it, and the dogs on the street know it. You keep on parroting Johnson and his collection of clowns. You sound just like them, facile and ignorant...
 
peteblue said:
Boris and Frost may well deserve all that comes to them, and at some point Boris will be out of office. However the communities in NI will still be there and living with a crap Protocol. I would like it changed for everyone’s benefit, you want it to stay to force NI into the ROI. That’s the difference between us….
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The difference is that you look at the little picture. You pronounce on a lot of subjects on this site. I would like to think that you actually know what you're on about but if your nonsense on this subject is anything to go by I fear that you are just a wum, I really do...
 
peteblue said:
Actually I would. As I said earlier, their are two single markets, U.K. and EU, unfortunately the EU appear to believe that ours doesn’t count. Putting all that aside, it needs to work for the U.K. and EU and also for NI and ROI, if any part doesn’t work it should be sorted…all business and trade agreements need both sides to be happy for them to work without conflict…..
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Which was our oven ready deal I had presumed. I also presumed it had been read and scrutinised hence Boris championing it. Our ability to do trade deals around the world will be badly affected if we agree to deals and then welsh on them the minute we realise we have not got what we thought we had.
 
Emlynsqueakyvoice said:
Brexit has made this country a nonentity going forward. You know it, I know it, and the dogs on the street know it. You keep on parroting Johnson and his collection of clowns. You sound just like them, facile and ignorant...
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Fine, we are a nonentity. If you read back you will see that I always wanted us just to be us, not some big Global player. We can defend ourselves, we can generate money, we can be prosperous. We have done our bit for the world, world policeman and loss of troops and money etc, and we don’t need it. I’m happy to be a Norway on steroids, minding our own business while watching on as the USA, China, Russia and the EU waste money on an ever attempt to control the world. We are just a little island with bloody big teeth , I’m comfortable with that…..
 
Alan Whittle said:
Which was our oven ready deal I had presumed. I also presumed it had been read and scrutinised hence Boris championing it. Our ability to do trade deals around the world will be badly affected if we agree to deals and then welsh on them the minute we realise we have not got what we thought we had.
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This was from the beginning a ‘clever’ attempt by Varadkar and the Eu to paint NI into a corner. That stupid cow May walked straight into the trap. The U.K. will always follow the law and deals. But if a deal is not working, both sides need to address it so that it works for us all. It’s a win/win requirement not a win/lose scenario…..
 
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